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There's a conflation of liberal resistance movements and antifa going on here. I don't think Antifa expects any law to support punching Nazis in the face, or is

There's a conflation of liberal resistance movements and antifa going on here. I don't think Antifa expects any law to support punching Nazis in the face, or is pushing hate speech laws. As far as I can see, antifa is in defiance of the law, not directly attacking it. Also it is not a wishful template for a communist police force. I believe it's based on blackbloc, an anarchist self organized mob. These anarchist mobs existed under communism too. Stalin sent them to the Gulag and Hitler sent them to work and concentration camps. People called them cowards then, too. Anarchist mobs have been around forever. It's when they attack the side in power that people really get super outraged.

bobwaycott 9y ago
I'm sorry, but did you just include Hitler in the category of "communism"?
- cairo_x 9y ago
  No. Showing they've been shitcanned by both ends of the spectrum. Sheesh. Speaking of worst possible interpretations, the author of the article makes the worst possible interpretation of hate speech law. It sounds so disingenuous I can't decide if it's infantile or some kind of NRAesque hysterical scare position.
  - bobwaycott 9y ago
    Wasn't going for a worst possible interpretation, which is why I asked for clarification. You simply worded and structured your point very poorly. Had you preceded your sentence about Stalin and Hitler with remarking that anarchist mobs existed under communism and fascism, it would have been clear you meant they were shit-canned by both ends of the spectrum.
    - cairo_x 9y ago
      I'd edit my post if I could. If you look closely I used a full stop instead of a semicolon if it makes you feel any better.
      - bobwaycott 9y ago
        Ugh. It's not about making me feel any better. It's a matter of the rambling structure of your comment, which the 'full stop' doesn't alter. I do look closely, which is exactly why I bothered to ask for the clarification--your comment left me unavoidably wondering if the words you used matched the meaning you intended. Anyway, thanks for the clarification. I didn't ask my original question for it to turn into nitpicking on sentence structure. Political theory/ideology is a former field of mine, and at least in the context of American political discourse, there's a very regrettable lack of differentiation recognized by the general populace between communists and fascists--people often use them interchangeably, and will often try layering them as insults against a specific person they don't like[0]. Since you're a random stranger on the internet, I had no way of knowing aside from politely inquiring if you meant what you wrote as it was written, or if something was missing. [0]: For a ridiculously amusing example in meme form, see: http://fascist.motifake.com/image/demotivational-poster/0904/fascism-politics-congress-obama-president-fascist-marxist-ta-demotivational-poster-1239517132.jpg http://fascist.motifake.com/image/demotivational-poster/0904...

bobwaycott 9y ago

I'm sorry, but did you just include Hitler in the category of "communism"?

cairo_x 9y ago
No. Showing they've been shitcanned by both ends of the spectrum. Sheesh. Speaking of worst possible interpretations, the author of the article makes the worst possible interpretation of hate speech law. It sounds so disingenuous I can't decide if it's infantile or some kind of NRAesque hysterical scare position.
- bobwaycott 9y ago
  Wasn't going for a worst possible interpretation, which is why I asked for clarification. You simply worded and structured your point very poorly. Had you preceded your sentence about Stalin and Hitler with remarking that anarchist mobs existed under communism and fascism, it would have been clear you meant they were shit-canned by both ends of the spectrum.
  - cairo_x 9y ago
    I'd edit my post if I could. If you look closely I used a full stop instead of a semicolon if it makes you feel any better.
    - bobwaycott 9y ago
      Ugh. It's not about making me feel any better. It's a matter of the rambling structure of your comment, which the 'full stop' doesn't alter. I do look closely, which is exactly why I bothered to ask for the clarification--your comment left me unavoidably wondering if the words you used matched the meaning you intended. Anyway, thanks for the clarification. I didn't ask my original question for it to turn into nitpicking on sentence structure. Political theory/ideology is a former field of mine, and at least in the context of American political discourse, there's a very regrettable lack of differentiation recognized by the general populace between communists and fascists--people often use them interchangeably, and will often try layering them as insults against a specific person they don't like[0]. Since you're a random stranger on the internet, I had no way of knowing aside from politely inquiring if you meant what you wrote as it was written, or if something was missing. [0]: For a ridiculously amusing example in meme form, see: http://fascist.motifake.com/image/demotivational-poster/0904/fascism-politics-congress-obama-president-fascist-marxist-ta-demotivational-poster-1239517132.jpg http://fascist.motifake.com/image/demotivational-poster/0904...