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If your teeth are like mine, then they are sharp at the front, designed for the cutting and tearing of flesh. Industrial farming is about as humane as any othe
by fixxer 9y ago
If your teeth are like mine, then they are sharp at the front, designed for the cutting and tearing of flesh.
Industrial farming is about as humane as any other method for killing I've seen/practiced.
People argue that hunting keeps one more connected with the concept of meat as quarry, but the end result is the same. I shot a scimitar oryx through the heart a few years ago (before the ban) and it still ran 100 yards before it dropped. I'm pretty sure stun guns and captive bolt pistols remove the concept of pain faster.
- mcculley 9y agoWhen I think about the cruelty of industrial farming of animals, I'm concerned more with the way some animals are kept suffering confined to claustrophobic cages for their entire lives than I am about how they are killed. I know that some killing is done humanely. Your oryx was able to run.
- fixxer 9y agoI guess if I was one to anthropomorphize my food, I'd agree.
- mcculley 9y agoDo you seriously believe only humans are capable of suffering? Are you not concerned about the suffering of animals other than humans?
- fixxer 9y agoNope. But where do you draw the line? Mosquitos feel pain. Who cares? Why don't we care? These moral/ethical lines are completely arbitrary.
- mcculley 9y agoThey are unclear, but not arbitrary. I enjoy shrimp. I don't think a shrimp is capable of experiencing suffering. I feel no guilt about the treatment of shrimp raised for me to enjoy. It is completely obvious to me that higher mammals such as dogs and pigs experience suffering. I enjoy pork. I don't feel bad about a pig being humanely killed so that I may enjoy pork. I do feel bad about a pig being made to suffer for his entire life as some do on factory farms. Just because it is difficult and subjective to know what suffers doesn't mean we shouldn't think about it.
- fixxer 9y agoMeh. Edit: downvote welcome. I have lots of fake internet points to spare. I'm not going to dignify a subjective, semantic argument with anything more. Fuck, "meh" is more than 99% of HN comments deserve. Moar Edit: Heil Trump!
- hobarrera 9y agoOur teeth and mouths are shaped mostly to cut and tear fruit, not flesh. Most of our metabolism is tailored towards fruit. That doesn't mean it has issues with meat: it'll deal quite well. But anatomic capability and morality are totally unrelated. My body is well-designed to rape women, but I won't use that as an argument to do so either.
- fixxer 9y agoLol. Comparing incisors to ability to rape. What a fucking douchebag.