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Even the language is insane: is there a "Commie Exception" we are considering too? Certainly communists objectively killed more people than nazis in the last 1

Even the language is insane: is there a "Commie Exception" we are considering too? Certainly communists objectively killed more people than nazis in the last 100 years.

jrs95 10y ago
Well of course these students and their professors aren't going to advocate for limiting their own speech ;) In all seriousness though, there seems to be no attempt whatsoever at restricting "dangerous" speech coming from leftists by these people, so that alone ought to make it clear they aren't making a logical argument. It's emotions and regurgitation. Basically the same thing as the worst of the alt-right. A good example of how absurd their criteria is too: At Norte Dame they're attempting to prevent the Vice President from speaking at their commencement because they claim he makes them feel unsafe.
- jakelazaroff 10y ago
  You say that as if the Vice President weren't a driving force behind the very bigotry and discrimination that makes people feel unsafe. This is a man who passed a law forcing women in Indiana hold funerals for their miscarriages. Edit: didn't realize they didn't have to attend and pay for the funerals themselves (addressed below; comment left in its original state for context).
  - jrs95 10y ago
    That is not what that law did, although there are a lot of memes like this that have been making Pence out to be a boogeyman that he is not. http://www.snopes.com/pence-law-forcing-fetus-funerals/ http://www.snopes.com/pence-law-forcing-fetus-funerals/
    - jakelazaroff 10y ago
      "Mostly false" is misleading; the only way in which the law differs from my summary is that women are not required to hold the funerary rites themselves: > The law, which was passed by the Republican-heavy state legislature, does require that aborted or miscarried fetuses be buried or cremated. It also requires that women involved in these cases be given the chance to decide how this is carried out. > However, it did not require the women involved to be present during — or to pay for — the disposal of the material. Instead, that fell to the facility in which the miscarriage or abortion took place: It's also worth noting that the law was struck down by a judge before it could take effect, lest anyone think this law was a reasonable or even legal.
      - valuearb 10y ago
        Yea, you were misleading.
  - hyperdunc 10y ago
    The Vice President holds despicable views, but cowardice is not a suitable response. Better to face his ideological nonsense head on with strong arguments.
    - jrs95 10y ago
      I completely agree. That's what ought to be done whenever there's a speaker one doesn't agree with.
Can_Not 10y ago
Just for reference, how many people has capitalism "objectively" kill?

Even the language is insane: is there a "Commie Exception" we are considering too? Certainly communists objectively killed more people than nazis in the last 100 years.

jrs95 10y ago

Well of course these students and their professors aren't going to advocate for limiting their own speech ;) In all seriousness though, there seems to be no attempt whatsoever at restricting "dangerous" speech coming from leftists by these people, so that alone ought to make it clear they aren't making a logical argument. It's emotions and regurgitation. Basically the same thing as the worst of the alt-right. A good example of how absurd their criteria is too: At Norte Dame they're attempting to prevent the Vice President from speaking at their commencement because they claim he makes them feel unsafe.

jakelazaroff 10y ago
You say that as if the Vice President weren't a driving force behind the very bigotry and discrimination that makes people feel unsafe. This is a man who passed a law forcing women in Indiana hold funerals for their miscarriages. Edit: didn't realize they didn't have to attend and pay for the funerals themselves (addressed below; comment left in its original state for context).
- jrs95 10y ago
  That is not what that law did, although there are a lot of memes like this that have been making Pence out to be a boogeyman that he is not. http://www.snopes.com/pence-law-forcing-fetus-funerals/ http://www.snopes.com/pence-law-forcing-fetus-funerals/
  - jakelazaroff 10y ago
    "Mostly false" is misleading; the only way in which the law differs from my summary is that women are not required to hold the funerary rites themselves: > The law, which was passed by the Republican-heavy state legislature, does require that aborted or miscarried fetuses be buried or cremated. It also requires that women involved in these cases be given the chance to decide how this is carried out. > However, it did not require the women involved to be present during — or to pay for — the disposal of the material. Instead, that fell to the facility in which the miscarriage or abortion took place: It's also worth noting that the law was struck down by a judge before it could take effect, lest anyone think this law was a reasonable or even legal.
    - valuearb 10y ago
      Yea, you were misleading.
- hyperdunc 10y ago
  The Vice President holds despicable views, but cowardice is not a suitable response. Better to face his ideological nonsense head on with strong arguments.
  - jrs95 10y ago
    I completely agree. That's what ought to be done whenever there's a speaker one doesn't agree with.

Can_Not 10y ago

Just for reference, how many people has capitalism "objectively" kill?