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The point is that these Indian outsourcing firms would hire a white face as a sales person and use them to sell the exact same people on L1 visas (which are tem

by exelius 10y ago

The point is that these Indian outsourcing firms would hire a white face as a sales person and use them to sell the exact same people on L1 visas (which are temporary work visas; but easy to get) at foreign rates and ship most of the work offshore. It would cost a little more for the outsourcing firms, sure, but it would be a net drain on the US economy (especially since it would keep real job creating entrepreneurial talent from coming to the US).

estebank 10y ago
> which are temporary work visas; but easy to get I wouldn't say that the L1 visas are easier to get. The only material differences I've noticed between L1 and H1B visas are * the first is not lottery based, * you must have worked for the company in another country for at least a year (time spent in the US while working for the company doesn't count), * that an L2 holding spouse can have an Employment Authorization Document pretty quickly (instead of H2B visa holders, who can only apply for an EAD fairly late in the process after being in the country for years), * L1 visa holders cannot change jobs, while H1B visa holders can (as difficult as that process can be).
- seldo 10y ago
  L1 visas are easier for the company to get, because there is no cap on the number issued. The employee on an L1 is just as qualified as an H1, but less free -- they cannot switch jobs, and if they get fired they must leave the country within 15 (!) days.
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  - Roedou 10y ago
    I'm just coming up to the end of my L-1A visa. I can attest that the "leave the country immediately if you lose your job" situation is a very odd thing to have hanging over you every single day.
  - ojbyrne 10y ago
    L-1As are included in the recent USCIS guidance that establishes a 60 day grace period when employment ends. https://www.uscis.gov/news/news-releases/uscis-publishes-final-rule-certain-employment-based-immigrant-and-nonimmigrant-visa-programs https://www.uscis.gov/news/news-releases/uscis-publishes-fin...
- pandaman 10y ago
  Look up "Blanket L-1", there is nothing like that for H1.

by exelius 10y ago

estebank 10y ago

> which are temporary work visas; but easy to get I wouldn't say that the L1 visas are easier to get. The only material differences I've noticed between L1 and H1B visas are * the first is not lottery based, * you must have worked for the company in another country for at least a year (time spent in the US while working for the company doesn't count), * that an L2 holding spouse can have an Employment Authorization Document pretty quickly (instead of H2B visa holders, who can only apply for an EAD fairly late in the process after being in the country for years), * L1 visa holders cannot change jobs, while H1B visa holders can (as difficult as that process can be).

seldo 10y ago
L1 visas are easier for the company to get, because there is no cap on the number issued. The employee on an L1 is just as qualified as an H1, but less free -- they cannot switch jobs, and if they get fired they must leave the country within 15 (!) days.
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- Roedou 10y ago
  I'm just coming up to the end of my L-1A visa. I can attest that the "leave the country immediately if you lose your job" situation is a very odd thing to have hanging over you every single day.
- ojbyrne 10y ago
  L-1As are included in the recent USCIS guidance that establishes a 60 day grace period when employment ends. https://www.uscis.gov/news/news-releases/uscis-publishes-final-rule-certain-employment-based-immigrant-and-nonimmigrant-visa-programs https://www.uscis.gov/news/news-releases/uscis-publishes-fin...
pandaman 10y ago
Look up "Blanket L-1", there is nothing like that for H1.