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Related, Trump's executive order from today which mentions H-1Bs : https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2017/04/18/presidential-executive-order-buy-ameri

by vmarsy 10y ago

Related, Trump's executive order from today which mentions H-1Bs : https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2017/04/18/presidential-executive-order-buy-american-and-hire-american https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2017/04/18/presi... And a quote from the NYT article[1]: “This does nothing,” said Senator Charles Schumer of New York, the Democratic leader. “Like all the other executive orders, it’s just words — he’s calling for new studies. It’s not going to fix the problem. It’s not going to create a single job.” [1] https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/18/us/politics/executive-order-hire-buy-american-h1b-visa-trump.html https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/18/us/politics/executive-ord...

crusso 10y ago
In a pro-union pro-local Democrat administration, that Executive Order would be hailed by Schumer as the most fantastic thing since sliced bread. Not that I agree with Trump, but Schumer is a complete hack.
gragas 10y ago
>Like all the other executive orders, it’s just words The hypocrisy here is truly disgusting. One moment, executive orders are the end of the world. The next moment, they don't mean anything at all. If a person can't see past this man's partisanship, then they are hopeless; when reason and logic are out the window, it's over. For those who want evidence from the mouth of Chuck Schumer himself [1]: >Schumer said that he called Homeland Security Secretary John Kelly on Saturday "to urge the administration to rescind these anti-American executive actions that will do absolutely nothing to improve our safety." >"In fact, they will do the opposite. We have a long and proud tradition of accepting refugees who seek safety in the United States, after a long and thorough vetting process. That tradition should continue," he said. >“These executive orders were mean-spirited and un-American in their origin, and implemented in a way that has caused chaos and confusion across the country. They will only serve to embolden and inspire those around the globe who would do us harm. They must be reversed, immediately," Schumer added. It's like politicians aren't even pretending anymore. The thing that kills me is that people actually buy this stuff. Maybe Chuck is right about the executive order on immigration. Maybe he's right that executive orders do nothing at all. But he's definitely not right about both things. 1. http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/316711-schumer-calls-for-trump-admin-to-rescind-refugee-order http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/316711-schumer-ca...
- jackweirdy 10y ago
  > One moment, executive orders are the end of the world. The next moment, they don't mean anything at all. That's a bit of a simplification, of course it's valid to say one executive order is bad and one is a waste of time - they're different orders that do different things!
- wtf_is_up 10y ago
  The only purpose Schumer and Pelosi serve in Washington is to sling mud at every single thing the administration does. It makes no difference what it is or where they stood prior.
  - gragas 10y ago
    A month ago: Chuck Schumer proclaims "hey! thing A actually affects people! doing thing A is too powerful to use without careful thought!" A few weeks later, after Trump does thing A: Chuck Schumer says "thing A is meaningless. thing A doesn't matter at all" I truly don't understand how people can read the comment above yours and then disagree with you.
  - guelo 10y ago
    The same purpose that the opposition party had during the last 8 years.
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- guelo 10y ago
  It's pretty easy to read the executive order yourself. Sec. 5 (b) is the section in question: https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2017/04/18/presidential-executive-order-buy-american-and-hire-american https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2017/04/18/presi... "shall, as soon as practicable, suggest reforms" is the actual meat of it.
  - gragas 10y ago
CriticalSection 10y ago
Noam Chomsky was interviewed the other day and he said something like "the only thing the Democrats seem to be complaining about with Trump is that he wants to ease tensions with Russia, which is probably the only sensible thing he is doing". Schumer is the Democratic leader, the leader of the party that 80 years ago was very well-connected to working Americans - even in the south. Trump is playing him and the Democrats like a fiddle. This is what the Democratic leadership stand for? Infosys and Tata? Taking a more war-like stance against Russia? One additional point of Trump's cleverness is he did it in such a way that screws the most disliked element, Tata and Infosys, while not harming too much those actual PHDs that Google, Microsoft, Oracle etc. hire. And people wonder how Hillary lost to Trump. You all should queue up that video Michael Moore made before the election about why Trump was going to win.
- thesagan 10y ago
  Oh man, being from MI everything he said hit home in a big way, and it got red hot the summer+fall of 2016. (And then Clinton skipped our state, to top it off, after we voted Sanders.) Moore put into words the devastating alienation the Rust Belt feels from the rest of the country. How they laughed at midwesterner's baseball caps was a big one. And they aren't getting any better. Scary.

by vmarsy 10y ago

crusso 10y ago

In a pro-union pro-local Democrat administration, that Executive Order would be hailed by Schumer as the most fantastic thing since sliced bread. Not that I agree with Trump, but Schumer is a complete hack.

gragas 10y ago

>Like all the other executive orders, it’s just words The hypocrisy here is truly disgusting. One moment, executive orders are the end of the world. The next moment, they don't mean anything at all. If a person can't see past this man's partisanship, then they are hopeless; when reason and logic are out the window, it's over. For those who want evidence from the mouth of Chuck Schumer himself [1]: >Schumer said that he called Homeland Security Secretary John Kelly on Saturday "to urge the administration to rescind these anti-American executive actions that will do absolutely nothing to improve our safety." >"In fact, they will do the opposite. We have a long and proud tradition of accepting refugees who seek safety in the United States, after a long and thorough vetting process. That tradition should continue," he said. >“These executive orders were mean-spirited and un-American in their origin, and implemented in a way that has caused chaos and confusion across the country. They will only serve to embolden and inspire those around the globe who would do us harm. They must be reversed, immediately," Schumer added. It's like politicians aren't even pretending anymore. The thing that kills me is that people actually buy this stuff. Maybe Chuck is right about the executive order on immigration. Maybe he's right that executive orders do nothing at all. But he's definitely not right about both things. 1. http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/316711-schumer-calls-for-trump-admin-to-rescind-refugee-order http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/316711-schumer-ca...

jackweirdy 10y ago
> One moment, executive orders are the end of the world. The next moment, they don't mean anything at all. That's a bit of a simplification, of course it's valid to say one executive order is bad and one is a waste of time - they're different orders that do different things!
wtf_is_up 10y ago
The only purpose Schumer and Pelosi serve in Washington is to sling mud at every single thing the administration does. It makes no difference what it is or where they stood prior.
- gragas 10y ago
  A month ago: Chuck Schumer proclaims "hey! thing A actually affects people! doing thing A is too powerful to use without careful thought!" A few weeks later, after Trump does thing A: Chuck Schumer says "thing A is meaningless. thing A doesn't matter at all" I truly don't understand how people can read the comment above yours and then disagree with you.
- guelo 10y ago
  The same purpose that the opposition party had during the last 8 years.
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guelo 10y ago
It's pretty easy to read the executive order yourself. Sec. 5 (b) is the section in question: https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2017/04/18/presidential-executive-order-buy-american-and-hire-american https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2017/04/18/presi... "shall, as soon as practicable, suggest reforms" is the actual meat of it.
- gragas 10y ago

CriticalSection 10y ago

Noam Chomsky was interviewed the other day and he said something like "the only thing the Democrats seem to be complaining about with Trump is that he wants to ease tensions with Russia, which is probably the only sensible thing he is doing". Schumer is the Democratic leader, the leader of the party that 80 years ago was very well-connected to working Americans - even in the south. Trump is playing him and the Democrats like a fiddle. This is what the Democratic leadership stand for? Infosys and Tata? Taking a more war-like stance against Russia? One additional point of Trump's cleverness is he did it in such a way that screws the most disliked element, Tata and Infosys, while not harming too much those actual PHDs that Google, Microsoft, Oracle etc. hire. And people wonder how Hillary lost to Trump. You all should queue up that video Michael Moore made before the election about why Trump was going to win.

thesagan 10y ago
Oh man, being from MI everything he said hit home in a big way, and it got red hot the summer+fall of 2016. (And then Clinton skipped our state, to top it off, after we voted Sanders.) Moore put into words the devastating alienation the Rust Belt feels from the rest of the country. How they laughed at midwesterner's baseball caps was a big one. And they aren't getting any better. Scary.