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The word Java and "simple development" is just absurd for any real application much less most enterprise applications.
by mentat 10y ago
The word Java and "simple development" is just absurd for any real application much less most enterprise applications.
- Turbots 10y agoOmfg seriously? It's been the most widely used programming language for enterprise applications for the last 5 years.. Have you ever done Java development?
- pdpi 10y agoIs it that absurd? Building Java applications using Undertow with a build setup in gradle is not _that_ different from a node.js service using Express and package.json for dependencies, or a Ruby, Sinatra and Rake stack. After having tried all three, I ended up going back to the JVM. It's not a perfect ecosystem, but it's damned good one.
- chillacy 10y agoIf you're on gradle you're already pretty cutting edge compared to most enterprise java setups. Probably most projects are still using maven. Also there's definitely been some cross pollination of ideas from at least the Ruby world to the Java (Rails inspiring Grails and probably Play too), so it's getting better. Add java8 lambdas, and it's quite nice.
- jsmthrowaway 10y ago> Probably most projects are still using maven. Aren't you optimistic.
- chjh 10y agoYeah, I would love me some maven...
- ake1 10y agojust got rid of a project using a 10 year old custom patched ant.
- chillacy 10y agoMaven's pretty big still. https://github.com/search?l=Maven+POM&q=pom.xml&type=Code&utf8=%E2%9C%93 https://github.com/search?l=Maven+POM&q=pom.xml&type=Code&ut... https://github.com/search?l=Gradle&q=build.gradle&type=Code&utf8=%E2%9C%93 https://github.com/search?l=Gradle&q=build.gradle&type=Code&... And that's public github, which is supposed to be more cutting edge than the legacy code that powers most companies. I started a project with gradle on my last team and everyone complained because they had never used it before.