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Follow-up (didn't see the updated docs). Looks like there is some support for client-side state through "Client Schema Extensions" — excited to play with this.

Follow-up (didn't see the updated docs). Looks like there is some support for client-side state through "Client Schema Extensions" — excited to play with this. I do also hope that this iteration brings with it better docs — that's the one area where I've looked over at Apollo longingly. On many occasions I've discovered unknown patterns in stack overflow answers that aren't documented anywhere (credit where it's due: the answers are often by members of the Relay team). And one final tangent: the day when Facebook gives up on flow and adopts Typescript will be a glorious, glorious day. More here: https://facebook.github.io/relay/docs/new-in-relay-modern.html https://facebook.github.io/relay/docs/new-in-relay-modern.ht...

wincent 9y ago
> I do also hope that this iteration brings with it better docs The docs are very minimal this point with some definite gaps (we had a bit of a scramble to get them written in time for F8), but the point is well-taken: Relay docs need to get better. Luckily, the design of Relay Modern is simpler and easier to understand and explain; there is less (no?) magic involved, so we should be able to get the docs to a much better place now.
- linkmotif 9y ago
  Now that mutations are so much simpler, would be great if there was some discussion of what you get from connections. Previously this was only well explained in blog posts by Huey Petersen. Thank you!
cies 9y ago
> the day when Facebook gives up on flow and adopts Typescript will be a glorious, glorious day. I foresee FB to skip TypeScript and go straight with ReasonML[0], as 25%[1] of the messenger code base supposedly is already converted to Reason. And I think that is even more glorious development then FB going with TypeScript. :) [0]: An easier to approach (for programmers coming from mainstream languages; like JS/C++/Java/C#) syntax on top of the OCaml language, and some new tooling. The tools integrate specifically well with BuckleScript (by JaneStreet) which provides the OCaml compiler with a JAvaScript compile target. [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13980062 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13980062 https://facebook.github.io/reason https://facebook.github.io/reason https://github.com/vramana/awesome-reasonml https://github.com/vramana/awesome-reasonml (some links to example code in the last section)
- staticassertion 9y ago
  Last time I looked at reason it was totally new and there was no tooling etc. I got little support from the gitter or whatever it was. Have things changed? It really interested me at the time.
  - sgrove 9y ago
    Worth stopping by the discord [0], it's grown quite a bit and so has the (editor/build/etc.) tooling. There's no Apollo/Relay story yet (that's the biggest missing piece for me on the client side), but everything else is pretty decent! [0] - https://discordapp.com/invite/reasonml https://discordapp.com/invite/reasonml
  - twoquestions 9y ago
    It was a bit tough to get tooling set up and it doesn't work on Windows, but on Mac (and Linux I assume) it's amazing. Better Intellisense support in VSCode than Typescript! It is very new though, and I haven't got a complete grip of JS FFI with Reason.
    - ivan7237d 9y ago
      Hey a quick question — which Flow extension are you using? There's the official one called "Flow Language Support" and another one called vscode-flow-ide. UPD: sorry, I just realized you were talking about Reason, never mind.
- trishume 9y ago
  BuckleScript is by Bloomberg, specifically https://github.com/bobzhang https://github.com/bobzhang, not Jane Street. The developer of js_of_ocaml, the other JS to OCaml compiler, works at Jane Street though.
  - cies 9y ago
    Oops, sorry. Cannot edit anymore. So please everyone read this!
rattray 9y ago
> the day when Facebook gives up on flow and adopts Typescript will be a glorious, glorious day. Why?
- voxmatt 9y ago
  Because I use Typescript! Joking aside though (although, let's be honest, there is some straight-up selfishness: I use TS and if Facebook did, my life would be easier), I think adding types to Javascript is a huge win no matter how its accomplished and it just so happens that TS seems to be gaining more community support than Flow. Flow's support is almost exclusively from the React community because of Facebook. If Facebook would switch to TS, the whole community could coalesce around one standard. That would have huge benefits.

wincent 9y ago

> I do also hope that this iteration brings with it better docs The docs are very minimal this point with some definite gaps (we had a bit of a scramble to get them written in time for F8), but the point is well-taken: Relay docs need to get better. Luckily, the design of Relay Modern is simpler and easier to understand and explain; there is less (no?) magic involved, so we should be able to get the docs to a much better place now.

linkmotif 9y ago
Now that mutations are so much simpler, would be great if there was some discussion of what you get from connections. Previously this was only well explained in blog posts by Huey Petersen. Thank you!

cies 9y ago

> the day when Facebook gives up on flow and adopts Typescript will be a glorious, glorious day. I foresee FB to skip TypeScript and go straight with ReasonML[0], as 25%[1] of the messenger code base supposedly is already converted to Reason. And I think that is even more glorious development then FB going with TypeScript. :) [0]: An easier to approach (for programmers coming from mainstream languages; like JS/C++/Java/C#) syntax on top of the OCaml language, and some new tooling. The tools integrate specifically well with BuckleScript (by JaneStreet) which provides the OCaml compiler with a JAvaScript compile target. [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13980062 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13980062 https://facebook.github.io/reason https://facebook.github.io/reason https://github.com/vramana/awesome-reasonml https://github.com/vramana/awesome-reasonml (some links to example code in the last section)

staticassertion 9y ago
Last time I looked at reason it was totally new and there was no tooling etc. I got little support from the gitter or whatever it was. Have things changed? It really interested me at the time.
- sgrove 9y ago
  Worth stopping by the discord [0], it's grown quite a bit and so has the (editor/build/etc.) tooling. There's no Apollo/Relay story yet (that's the biggest missing piece for me on the client side), but everything else is pretty decent! [0] - https://discordapp.com/invite/reasonml https://discordapp.com/invite/reasonml
- twoquestions 9y ago
  It was a bit tough to get tooling set up and it doesn't work on Windows, but on Mac (and Linux I assume) it's amazing. Better Intellisense support in VSCode than Typescript! It is very new though, and I haven't got a complete grip of JS FFI with Reason.
  - ivan7237d 9y ago
    Hey a quick question — which Flow extension are you using? There's the official one called "Flow Language Support" and another one called vscode-flow-ide. UPD: sorry, I just realized you were talking about Reason, never mind.
trishume 9y ago
BuckleScript is by Bloomberg, specifically https://github.com/bobzhang https://github.com/bobzhang, not Jane Street. The developer of js_of_ocaml, the other JS to OCaml compiler, works at Jane Street though.
- cies 9y ago
  Oops, sorry. Cannot edit anymore. So please everyone read this!

rattray 9y ago

> the day when Facebook gives up on flow and adopts Typescript will be a glorious, glorious day. Why?

voxmatt 9y ago
Because I use Typescript! Joking aside though (although, let's be honest, there is some straight-up selfishness: I use TS and if Facebook did, my life would be easier), I think adding types to Javascript is a huge win no matter how its accomplished and it just so happens that TS seems to be gaining more community support than Flow. Flow's support is almost exclusively from the React community because of Facebook. If Facebook would switch to TS, the whole community could coalesce around one standard. That would have huge benefits.