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From a user's perspective, though, I'm a little annoyed how Patreon has "won" in terms of user-backed content. I don't want to commit to a monthly. I would've

by Pxtl 10y ago

From a user's perspective, though, I'm a little annoyed how Patreon has "won" in terms of user-backed content. I don't want to commit to a monthly. I would've preferred if something like Flattr had market dominance for this kind of thing. Although obviously, content producers sided with Patreon because it gives them predictable income, which keeps them from starving.

jerf 10y ago
"I don't want to commit to a monthly." Another part of the reason I tend to support the model is that I've watched micropayments for.... umm... gosh, about 16-18 years now. It isn't going to happen, or if it is, it's going to require something relatively fundamental to shift. I expanded more on that 3 days ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14117016 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14117016 (Also why I decided I need to disclaim being a shill, since these two things came in quick succession.)
- rasz 10y ago
  Twitch is doing micropayments now https://blog.twitch.tv/introducing-cheering-celebrate-together-da62af41fac6 https://blog.twitch.tv/introducing-cheering-celebrate-togeth..., they call them bits, 1 bit is ~$0.015 First micropayment service that actually is _micro_.
  - jamesjansson 10y ago
    Not really first. I run Tapview, we do micropayments that you can put on your own site, and we go down to 1 cent. Also, I'd say we are definitely not the first.
HCIdivision17 10y ago
There are other methods, I think. At least one guy I back does it based on a per-comic basis. Granted, the comics are big and usually go longer than a month, but it's pretty good, I think. Takes some of the 'gotta-deliver-constantly' off him, and it only charges what is delivered. Which may just be an open pre-order on my part. Which is sort of the stupidest way to buy anything, I suppose, except for the social trust aspect I have in him.
maxmcorp 10y ago
As a content creator a small monthly fee can be better. Otherwise you risk everything to turn into a "gifrecipe" format. Monthly income can make it possible to make more in depth content.

by Pxtl 10y ago

jerf 10y ago

"I don't want to commit to a monthly." Another part of the reason I tend to support the model is that I've watched micropayments for.... umm... gosh, about 16-18 years now. It isn't going to happen, or if it is, it's going to require something relatively fundamental to shift. I expanded more on that 3 days ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14117016 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14117016 (Also why I decided I need to disclaim being a shill, since these two things came in quick succession.)

rasz 10y ago
Twitch is doing micropayments now https://blog.twitch.tv/introducing-cheering-celebrate-together-da62af41fac6 https://blog.twitch.tv/introducing-cheering-celebrate-togeth..., they call them bits, 1 bit is ~$0.015 First micropayment service that actually is _micro_.
- jamesjansson 10y ago
  Not really first. I run Tapview, we do micropayments that you can put on your own site, and we go down to 1 cent. Also, I'd say we are definitely not the first.

HCIdivision17 10y ago

There are other methods, I think. At least one guy I back does it based on a per-comic basis. Granted, the comics are big and usually go longer than a month, but it's pretty good, I think. Takes some of the 'gotta-deliver-constantly' off him, and it only charges what is delivered. Which may just be an open pre-order on my part. Which is sort of the stupidest way to buy anything, I suppose, except for the social trust aspect I have in him.

maxmcorp 10y ago

As a content creator a small monthly fee can be better. Otherwise you risk everything to turn into a "gifrecipe" format. Monthly income can make it possible to make more in depth content.