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This about sums up my opinion of iPhone 4. My N1 is still a wonderful phone and for the features I use, I still don't think I'd want to trade it (back) in for

by ben1040 16y ago

This about sums up my opinion of iPhone 4. My N1 is still a wonderful phone and for the features I use, I still don't think I'd want to trade it (back) in for an iPhone just yet. I think the key phrase there is "for the features I use," however. If I were younger and cared more about video chat, I might be wanting to seriously hop on this phone. I still think that since Android 2.1 was released the momentum in terms of software development is still in Android's favor, while Apple's last development cycle seems to be all about making a seriously slick looking piece of hardware.

batiudrami 16y ago
Well, in Australia we've had video chat over 3G for about 6 years now. Everyone has a 3G phone (it's standard) and everyone can use video chat. The thing is, people don't. I've never once received a video call apart from when we all first got them and there was novelty in calling a guy who was sitting 2 metres away from you. Video chat is awkward because it means your contact is on speakerphone so everyone can hear you, and I don't really need to see who I'm talking to anyway.
- geocar 16y ago
  > Video chat is awkward because it means your contact is on speakerphone so everyone can hear you, About that: You can use an earpiece.
  - batiudrami 16y ago
    I assume you can do this with other phones too, though I've never tried it. The video call quality you get over 3G is fairly poor too - iPhone's implementation seems to have much better quality based on the promo videos. However, it still has some major flaws - only to other iPhones (for the moment) and only when you're on Wifi - that requires quite a bit of coordination to make sure the person on the other end is ready for your call. I honestly don't see this catching on - the trend I see is away from actual human interaction (SMS, Facebook updates and IM) rather than towards it.
- bad_user 16y ago
  And more ... I'm usually talking on the phone when I'm also doing something else ... driving, walking, taking a sh*t (sorry, but it's true) ... those are perfect times to get in touch and have long talks. I'm never standing still unless I work or relax, in which case I don't want to answer phone-calls. Even when I happen to take long bus-drives, it's usually crowded, I'm standing on my feet and I can't hold that phone focused on my face for long (I know because I've been trying to read on my ebook). The only use-case I'd have for video-chat is to talk with my family if I were far away from home, but then a video-call is much more expensive than a regular call (I have hundreds of voice-minutes included for a few bucks per month), and all family members have computers anyway ... which means I prefer using a laptop to also transfer pictures and links or whatever, and Skype is OK for that. I don't know ... maybe with slick phones like iPhone4 and with lower prices on 3G connections it could appeal to me, but not right now that's for sure. And I hope it comes with an open standard, because buying iPhones for every member of the family is expensive.

by ben1040 16y ago

batiudrami 16y ago

Well, in Australia we've had video chat over 3G for about 6 years now. Everyone has a 3G phone (it's standard) and everyone can use video chat. The thing is, people don't. I've never once received a video call apart from when we all first got them and there was novelty in calling a guy who was sitting 2 metres away from you. Video chat is awkward because it means your contact is on speakerphone so everyone can hear you, and I don't really need to see who I'm talking to anyway.

geocar 16y ago
> Video chat is awkward because it means your contact is on speakerphone so everyone can hear you, About that: You can use an earpiece.
- batiudrami 16y ago
  I assume you can do this with other phones too, though I've never tried it. The video call quality you get over 3G is fairly poor too - iPhone's implementation seems to have much better quality based on the promo videos. However, it still has some major flaws - only to other iPhones (for the moment) and only when you're on Wifi - that requires quite a bit of coordination to make sure the person on the other end is ready for your call. I honestly don't see this catching on - the trend I see is away from actual human interaction (SMS, Facebook updates and IM) rather than towards it.
bad_user 16y ago
And more ... I'm usually talking on the phone when I'm also doing something else ... driving, walking, taking a sh*t (sorry, but it's true) ... those are perfect times to get in touch and have long talks. I'm never standing still unless I work or relax, in which case I don't want to answer phone-calls. Even when I happen to take long bus-drives, it's usually crowded, I'm standing on my feet and I can't hold that phone focused on my face for long (I know because I've been trying to read on my ebook). The only use-case I'd have for video-chat is to talk with my family if I were far away from home, but then a video-call is much more expensive than a regular call (I have hundreds of voice-minutes included for a few bucks per month), and all family members have computers anyway ... which means I prefer using a laptop to also transfer pictures and links or whatever, and Skype is OK for that. I don't know ... maybe with slick phones like iPhone4 and with lower prices on 3G connections it could appeal to me, but not right now that's for sure. And I hope it comes with an open standard, because buying iPhones for every member of the family is expensive.