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Take note people. See the mental poison infecting all aspects of culture. If you disagree with this nonsense, you need to push back and speak up. For an exampl

by PKop 10y ago

Take note people. See the mental poison infecting all aspects of culture. If you disagree with this nonsense, you need to push back and speak up. For an example of how bad this can get (and has gotten) see: https://youtu.be/04wyGK6k6HE https://youtu.be/04wyGK6k6HE One of the most captivating interviews I've watched recently. Don't say you weren't warned. edit: Isn't it funny this thread is dead/flagged? You can't even have an opinion on the issue that doesn't fall in line with the established "correct" position. No discussion is allowed. The pros and cons cannot even be enumerated without censorship. On an issue that directly involves development practices and would necessitate more work for developers. Talking about it is off limits! If that's not the very definition of suppression of speech, I don't know what is. People that have reservations about this are viewed as "sensitive" and worrying unnecessarily. But look at this very thread!

antisthenes 10y ago
> Isn't it funny this thread is dead/flagged? Isn't this the pushback you were talking about? That something is flagged means it's trash that doesn't even warrant the effort of discussion and definitely doesn't belong on the front page. In fact we're discussing it right now (you can still post in flagged threads, can you not?)
- PKop 10y ago
  Quite obviously it limits discussion. It is removed from view of those that didn't see it when it was posted. It is not falling off the main page by virtue of not earning enough engagement/comments/votes from users. It is arbitrarily being pulled. Maybe I don't understand who has the power to "flag" a post, or what the criteria is. YCombinator can do whatever they want on their site if it is they (the mods) alone who "flag" something. The engagement and discussion is a sign that people want to discuss it. Not sure why it is deemed (by whom?) to be "trash". By you? My point is, this post relates to programming. It is not a side issue or a triviality or inconsequential. "Free speech" generally is a fundamental issue that has impact on all areas of society, certainly tech and the internet, and I think this is a free speech issue. It is a discussion of what forms of speech are deemed allowed and what isn't.
  - DanBC 10y ago
    > Maybe I don't understand who has the power to "flag" a post. Anyone with more than 30 karma can flag a submission or a post. > It is removed from view You can change the "showdead" option in your user settings to show killed submissions and posts.
    - PKop 10y ago
      Noted. Thank you edit: Does this only work when browsing "new", and not the front page / more posts? In other words, I don't see this post, or any posts with the [dead] or [flagged] tag when paging through more from the home page.
      - DanBC 10y ago
        Flagged posts are going to drop faster than not flagged posts, so they're going to be harder to find if you're browsing from the front page.

by PKop 10y ago

antisthenes 10y ago

> Isn't it funny this thread is dead/flagged? Isn't this the pushback you were talking about? That something is flagged means it's trash that doesn't even warrant the effort of discussion and definitely doesn't belong on the front page. In fact we're discussing it right now (you can still post in flagged threads, can you not?)

PKop 10y ago
Quite obviously it limits discussion. It is removed from view of those that didn't see it when it was posted. It is not falling off the main page by virtue of not earning enough engagement/comments/votes from users. It is arbitrarily being pulled. Maybe I don't understand who has the power to "flag" a post, or what the criteria is. YCombinator can do whatever they want on their site if it is they (the mods) alone who "flag" something. The engagement and discussion is a sign that people want to discuss it. Not sure why it is deemed (by whom?) to be "trash". By you? My point is, this post relates to programming. It is not a side issue or a triviality or inconsequential. "Free speech" generally is a fundamental issue that has impact on all areas of society, certainly tech and the internet, and I think this is a free speech issue. It is a discussion of what forms of speech are deemed allowed and what isn't.
- DanBC 10y ago
  > Maybe I don't understand who has the power to "flag" a post. Anyone with more than 30 karma can flag a submission or a post. > It is removed from view You can change the "showdead" option in your user settings to show killed submissions and posts.
  - PKop 10y ago
    Noted. Thank you edit: Does this only work when browsing "new", and not the front page / more posts? In other words, I don't see this post, or any posts with the [dead] or [flagged] tag when paging through more from the home page.
    - DanBC 10y ago
      Flagged posts are going to drop faster than not flagged posts, so they're going to be harder to find if you're browsing from the front page.