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This does not mean you will get the same quality out of the box. Microsoft hand-calibrates the Surface screens indiviually before they ship, just some thing to

by NKCSS 9y ago

This does not mean you will get the same quality out of the box. Microsoft hand-calibrates the Surface screens indiviually before they ship, just some thing to take into account.

cmdrfred 9y ago
Hand calibrates the screen? Does that mean someone does it by eye each time? I worked as a color matcher the human eye isn't all that sensitive I'd think you'd want to use a colorimeter and use that data to automatically match the desired colorimetry (most people won't even notice 1.5 delta e off in yellows, 3 delta e in blues) but then "by hand" wouldn't really make sense as that process would likely be automated.
- dogma1138 9y ago
  hand calibrates usually means there is an additional process. A colorimeter is used but it can also be that a human worker oversees it, this is a setup beyond the initial calibration done at the factory and has some costs. For IPS panels there is also another process which is very manual and that is panel fitting, the panels are fitted by hand and tweaked a bit in terms of tensioning to reduce the amount of light bleeding that is native to IPS displays this is done to higher end desktop displays but I'm not sure if it can be done to a form fitted display like the one for the Surface.
  - cmdrfred 9y ago
    Thanks for the info. I'd be curious to compare the difference between the two screens.
candiodari 9y ago
I think the point is that Chinese products are getting progressively less crappy. Rapidly, even. Just like what happened to every other up and coming industrial power. Perhaps another 4-5 years and the same will be true across a lot more product categories. Made in USA/Germany will simply become what Made in the UK became long ago. [1] [1] https://youtu.be/1EBfxjSFAxQ?t=54s https://youtu.be/1EBfxjSFAxQ?t=54s
- true_religion 9y ago
  Maybe. I had already assumed many product parts were made in China and the only difference was how much quality control was put into place.
- sebisebi 9y ago
  "Made in Germany" was introduced to mark it as an inferior foreign product and became later a sign of quality.So China may be following in Germany's footsteps.

by NKCSS 9y ago

This does not mean you will get the same quality out of the box. Microsoft hand-calibrates the Surface screens indiviually before they ship, just some thing to take into account.

cmdrfred 9y ago

Hand calibrates the screen? Does that mean someone does it by eye each time? I worked as a color matcher the human eye isn't all that sensitive I'd think you'd want to use a colorimeter and use that data to automatically match the desired colorimetry (most people won't even notice 1.5 delta e off in yellows, 3 delta e in blues) but then "by hand" wouldn't really make sense as that process would likely be automated.

dogma1138 9y ago
hand calibrates usually means there is an additional process. A colorimeter is used but it can also be that a human worker oversees it, this is a setup beyond the initial calibration done at the factory and has some costs. For IPS panels there is also another process which is very manual and that is panel fitting, the panels are fitted by hand and tweaked a bit in terms of tensioning to reduce the amount of light bleeding that is native to IPS displays this is done to higher end desktop displays but I'm not sure if it can be done to a form fitted display like the one for the Surface.
- cmdrfred 9y ago
  Thanks for the info. I'd be curious to compare the difference between the two screens.

candiodari 9y ago

I think the point is that Chinese products are getting progressively less crappy. Rapidly, even. Just like what happened to every other up and coming industrial power. Perhaps another 4-5 years and the same will be true across a lot more product categories. Made in USA/Germany will simply become what Made in the UK became long ago. [1] [1] https://youtu.be/1EBfxjSFAxQ?t=54s https://youtu.be/1EBfxjSFAxQ?t=54s

true_religion 9y ago
Maybe. I had already assumed many product parts were made in China and the only difference was how much quality control was put into place.
sebisebi 9y ago
"Made in Germany" was introduced to mark it as an inferior foreign product and became later a sign of quality.So China may be following in Germany's footsteps.