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Well, head of AI and SVP of engineering could be representative of an internal shift in focus, so relatively easily explained - maybe they weren't moving fast e

Well, head of AI and SVP of engineering could be representative of an internal shift in focus, so relatively easily explained - maybe they weren't moving fast enough with autonomous vehicles? Head of comms is easy too - lots of press recently, so this could be anything from vanilla burnout to a replacement of someone who can handle it better. VP of Growth could also be as simple as they're not growing at the rate expected, so someone has to take the hit. Could all of it be related to the same thing, and that thing being their culture? Sure. But couldn't it also just be that these things happen, and everyone is so focused on Uber that it's getting an inappropriate amount of attention and analysis for things that really do just happen on their own from time to time? I'd argue yes.

tyingq 10y ago
The SVP Engineering departure, though, didn't appear to be planned at all. Uber found themselves in a scandal, then a previously undisclosed scandal of the same nature came to light. They had to act, or find themselves in a deeper hole.
- eddieroger 10y ago
  What would "appear to be planned" look like from the outside? Maybe if they were spotted meeting with execs elsewhere or something, sure. But if it was a termination, that's slow and wouldn't be apparent from outside, and if he just chose to leave, it would be more abrupt, but we still don't, and probably never will, know the reason, and until he says it everything is conjecture.
  - tyingq 10y ago
    Sorry, I'm confused. It was widely reported. Are you saying the news stories about the nature of Amit's departure were all pure conjecture? They did appear to use unnamed internal sources, but it would be odd to go out that far on a defamation limb if you didn't have credible sources. Edit: Or ignoring all that, the short tenure implies unplanned all on its own.
- eddieroger 10y ago
  What would "appear to be planned" look like from the outside? Maybe if they were spotted meeting with execs elsewhere or something, sure. But if it was a termination, that's slow and wouldn't be apparent from outside, and if he just chose to leave, it would be more abrupt, but we still don't, and probably never will, know the reason, and until he says it everything is conjecture.
hackuser 10y ago
> easily ... easy ... vanilla ... simple ... these things happen ... I disagree that all these high-level departures are normal - again, name another company where this is happening (and where it wasn't failing) - or easily explained. And in fact, some of those departing did point to problems within Uber. > could be ... maybe .. could be .. Could all of it be ... couldn't it also just be ... There is no basis for the parent post. It could be that someone poisoned all these executives, or that they run a human trafficking ring and retired on the income, or that Kalanick secretly reports to Putin and Putin wanted them out. Without a factual basis, it's all similarly meaningless.
- linkregister 10y ago
  Exactly, we don't know when other companies' executives leave, because it's not reported. The most important metric, which is never mentioned, is the base rate: how often other companies' executives leave. Until this is included, the narrative is compelling but doesn't hold water.

tyingq 10y ago

The SVP Engineering departure, though, didn't appear to be planned at all. Uber found themselves in a scandal, then a previously undisclosed scandal of the same nature came to light. They had to act, or find themselves in a deeper hole.

eddieroger 10y ago
What would "appear to be planned" look like from the outside? Maybe if they were spotted meeting with execs elsewhere or something, sure. But if it was a termination, that's slow and wouldn't be apparent from outside, and if he just chose to leave, it would be more abrupt, but we still don't, and probably never will, know the reason, and until he says it everything is conjecture.
- tyingq 10y ago
  Sorry, I'm confused. It was widely reported. Are you saying the news stories about the nature of Amit's departure were all pure conjecture? They did appear to use unnamed internal sources, but it would be odd to go out that far on a defamation limb if you didn't have credible sources. Edit: Or ignoring all that, the short tenure implies unplanned all on its own.
eddieroger 10y ago
What would "appear to be planned" look like from the outside? Maybe if they were spotted meeting with execs elsewhere or something, sure. But if it was a termination, that's slow and wouldn't be apparent from outside, and if he just chose to leave, it would be more abrupt, but we still don't, and probably never will, know the reason, and until he says it everything is conjecture.

hackuser 10y ago

> easily ... easy ... vanilla ... simple ... these things happen ... I disagree that all these high-level departures are normal - again, name another company where this is happening (and where it wasn't failing) - or easily explained. And in fact, some of those departing did point to problems within Uber. > could be ... maybe .. could be .. Could all of it be ... couldn't it also just be ... There is no basis for the parent post. It could be that someone poisoned all these executives, or that they run a human trafficking ring and retired on the income, or that Kalanick secretly reports to Putin and Putin wanted them out. Without a factual basis, it's all similarly meaningless.

linkregister 10y ago
Exactly, we don't know when other companies' executives leave, because it's not reported. The most important metric, which is never mentioned, is the base rate: how often other companies' executives leave. Until this is included, the narrative is compelling but doesn't hold water.