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Correction: Steve Jobs didn't build the Apple I. Steve Wozniak did. Steve Jobs couldn't program or design hardware. He was a design/marketing guy.

hoodoof 10y ago
>> He was a design/marketing guy. That's wrong - he could both program and he was also extremely hardware technical, but not by a long shot to the capabilities of Woz.
- kutkloon7 10y ago
  Wozniak disagrees: http://tech.co/steve-wozniak-steve-jobs-did-not-know-technology-2015-09 http://tech.co/steve-wozniak-steve-jobs-did-not-know-technol.... In Jobs' biography the same thing is described. He liked to claim that he built the Apple, or played some vital role. He probably talked some hardware guys into making what he wanted, and in that sense he played a technical role, but he didn't bother with technology himself.
  - tzakrajs 10y ago
    Pretty sure the other claim is true. He wrote software for Atari, no?
    - jacquesm 10y ago
      No, he got Woz to write software for Atari claiming that he did it and pocketed the largest chunk of the pay. http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/steve-wozniak-cried-jobs-kept-atari-bonus-267711 http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/steve-wozniak-cried-jobs-kept-atari...
      - tzakrajs 10y ago
        Welp... Goddamnit Steve you poser. And what a shitty thing to do. Fuck.
    - nsxwolf 10y ago
      I've only read he worked on TTL logic based games, not anything microprocessor controlled.
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raverbashing 10y ago
Jobs did some wire wrapping in Apple(?) prototypes. He also managed to get chip samples for free. Source: Woz biography
slededit 9y ago
For a guy that couldn't program he "got" objected oriented design more than most programmers at the time [1]. This is really why NEXT and therefore OS X had a much more consistent UI. When you compare programming with cocoa vs win32 the ease of subclassing is a huge part of the reason. 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kjtQnPqq2U https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kjtQnPqq2U

hoodoof 10y ago

>> He was a design/marketing guy. That's wrong - he could both program and he was also extremely hardware technical, but not by a long shot to the capabilities of Woz.

kutkloon7 10y ago
Wozniak disagrees: http://tech.co/steve-wozniak-steve-jobs-did-not-know-technology-2015-09 http://tech.co/steve-wozniak-steve-jobs-did-not-know-technol.... In Jobs' biography the same thing is described. He liked to claim that he built the Apple, or played some vital role. He probably talked some hardware guys into making what he wanted, and in that sense he played a technical role, but he didn't bother with technology himself.
- tzakrajs 10y ago
  Pretty sure the other claim is true. He wrote software for Atari, no?
  - jacquesm 10y ago
    No, he got Woz to write software for Atari claiming that he did it and pocketed the largest chunk of the pay. http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/steve-wozniak-cried-jobs-kept-atari-bonus-267711 http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/steve-wozniak-cried-jobs-kept-atari...
    - tzakrajs 10y ago
      Welp... Goddamnit Steve you poser. And what a shitty thing to do. Fuck.
  - nsxwolf 10y ago
    I've only read he worked on TTL logic based games, not anything microprocessor controlled.
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raverbashing 10y ago

Jobs did some wire wrapping in Apple(?) prototypes. He also managed to get chip samples for free. Source: Woz biography

slededit 9y ago

For a guy that couldn't program he "got" objected oriented design more than most programmers at the time [1]. This is really why NEXT and therefore OS X had a much more consistent UI. When you compare programming with cocoa vs win32 the ease of subclassing is a huge part of the reason. 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kjtQnPqq2U https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kjtQnPqq2U