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I can't name the architect for the office building I'm sitting in. Or the designer of my (distinctly average) car. Having said that, I know that Tim Berners Le

by d4nt 16y ago

I can't name the architect for the office building I'm sitting in. Or the designer of my (distinctly average) car. Having said that, I know that Tim Berners Lee created the Web, Jon Resig built jQuery and James Dyson designed my vacuum cleaner. I don't think creating something "you use all day" should qualify you for being famous. Doing something new and very innovative sometimes does though.

bennysaurus 16y ago
Linus Torvolds as well - There's a number of reasonably famous programmers out there, and they're often known for revolutionising the areas of industry as opposed to their celebrity lifestyles. Not sure what the writer is on about here really.
rythie 16y ago
Are those the people that really created the products you use today though? Tim Berners Lee may have created the web, but he created it without fonts tags, images, layout and so on. The web exists because of the millions of people who put a lot of work into it including Amazon, Altavista, Google, Yahoo, Netscape and so on. jQuery lists 21 people in it's team and 8 past members: http://jquery.org/team http://jquery.org/team Did you buy the very first Dyson vacuum cleaner? (the DC01 in 1993) or one designed by one of it's 1500+ staff http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyson_%28company%29 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyson_%28company%29 Most products are built by a lot of people but just have a famous leader (who may or may not have made the very first version that you probably never saw).
- vessenes 16y ago
  In the interest of securing our oral history about the web, Tim Berners Lee had layout and images. And built-in click-to-edit. http://info.cern.ch/NextBrowser1.html http://info.cern.ch/NextBrowser1.html
  - rythie 16y ago
    In 1991 it looked like this: http://www.w3.org/History/19921103-hypertext/hypertext/WWW/TheProject.html http://www.w3.org/History/19921103-hypertext/hypertext/WWW/T... In 1992 Erwise, ViollawWW and Lynx were created and Mosaic in 1993, Netscape in 1994. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_World_Wide_Web http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_World_Wide_Web) That picture was from 1993, though I'd concede I got a few inaccuracies in my comment, however Tim Berners Lee, didn't create the whole web by himself, even in the very early days there were others creating it too, that have now been forgotten.
    - vessenes 16y ago
      Re: TBL, I totally agree with you. Re the links: Interesting -- http://www.w3.org/History/19921103-hypertext/hypertext/WWW/MarkUp/MarkUp.html http://www.w3.org/History/19921103-hypertext/hypertext/WWW/M... has an SGML DTD for HTML, which mentions images, but that DTD is dated 1995, many years after TBL was speccing the web originally. An interesting bit of history lost, the first DTDs for HTML, as well as some canonical first pages.
- kenjackson 16y ago
  But by this argument, no "group" is famous. Even musicians. Sure you can name "Miley Cyrus", but can you name her producers, sound engineers, bass keyboardist, vocal coach (no, not, I am TPain)? There's always a figurehead that people know, but there's usually a long line of less glamorous people that helped them get famous.

by d4nt 16y ago

bennysaurus 16y ago

Linus Torvolds as well - There's a number of reasonably famous programmers out there, and they're often known for revolutionising the areas of industry as opposed to their celebrity lifestyles. Not sure what the writer is on about here really.

rythie 16y ago

Are those the people that really created the products you use today though? Tim Berners Lee may have created the web, but he created it without fonts tags, images, layout and so on. The web exists because of the millions of people who put a lot of work into it including Amazon, Altavista, Google, Yahoo, Netscape and so on. jQuery lists 21 people in it's team and 8 past members: http://jquery.org/team http://jquery.org/team Did you buy the very first Dyson vacuum cleaner? (the DC01 in 1993) or one designed by one of it's 1500+ staff http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyson_%28company%29 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyson_%28company%29 Most products are built by a lot of people but just have a famous leader (who may or may not have made the very first version that you probably never saw).

vessenes 16y ago
In the interest of securing our oral history about the web, Tim Berners Lee had layout and images. And built-in click-to-edit. http://info.cern.ch/NextBrowser1.html http://info.cern.ch/NextBrowser1.html
- rythie 16y ago
  In 1991 it looked like this: http://www.w3.org/History/19921103-hypertext/hypertext/WWW/TheProject.html http://www.w3.org/History/19921103-hypertext/hypertext/WWW/T... In 1992 Erwise, ViollawWW and Lynx were created and Mosaic in 1993, Netscape in 1994. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_World_Wide_Web http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_World_Wide_Web) That picture was from 1993, though I'd concede I got a few inaccuracies in my comment, however Tim Berners Lee, didn't create the whole web by himself, even in the very early days there were others creating it too, that have now been forgotten.
  - vessenes 16y ago
    Re: TBL, I totally agree with you. Re the links: Interesting -- http://www.w3.org/History/19921103-hypertext/hypertext/WWW/MarkUp/MarkUp.html http://www.w3.org/History/19921103-hypertext/hypertext/WWW/M... has an SGML DTD for HTML, which mentions images, but that DTD is dated 1995, many years after TBL was speccing the web originally. An interesting bit of history lost, the first DTDs for HTML, as well as some canonical first pages.
kenjackson 16y ago
But by this argument, no "group" is famous. Even musicians. Sure you can name "Miley Cyrus", but can you name her producers, sound engineers, bass keyboardist, vocal coach (no, not, I am TPain)? There's always a figurehead that people know, but there's usually a long line of less glamorous people that helped them get famous.