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It sounds pretty great, but I'm very worried about what actually comes out of it given the media landscape. People will use the data in ways that benefit them -
by taurath 10y ago
It sounds pretty great, but I'm very worried about what actually comes out of it given the media landscape. People will use the data in ways that benefit them - even the CBO's reports are highly politicized.
If we can't start taking "real, true" data at face value and using it to drive actual policy again, this is just another drop in the bucket.
- hackuser 10y ago> even the CBO's reports are highly politicized I'm pretty sure I've read about many CBO reports that disagreed with the party in power. What basis is there for saying they are highly politicized?
- taurath 10y agoNot the reports themselves, the results from them. Its good data but doesn't "matter".
- kuyan 10y ago> even the CBO's reports are highly politicized Can you source that?
- MisterBastahrd 10y agoI took it to mean "third parties politicize CBO reports" rather than "CBO reports are created with ideological slants," because, well, that's the truth of the matter. You can't criticize a CBO forecast for being slightly inaccurate when politicians decide to change the parameters after the fact.
- astronautjones 10y agoI think you're correct, but it was poorly worded
- taurath 10y agoSorry about that, GP is correct with regard to my intent.
- nhebb 10y agoCBO reports are done within the confines of the request, opening them up to a garbage in, garbage out scenario. The reports are supposed to be non-partisan, but a report request can be crafted in such a way that it's essentially weaponized non-partisanship.
- akinalci 10y ago> but I'm very worried about what actually comes out of it given the media landscape We've seen recently that some people believe what they want to believe, regardless of facts. This doesn't mean the rest of us should be deprived of facts, or that we should throw our hands up and give up on seeking the truth.
- taurath 10y agoNot saying we should give up, but only saying that the truth doesn't matter unless the conditions for it to be useful exist. A Russian bureaucrat kicks your dog? It doesn't matter what the truth is if nothing can come of it.
- akinalci 10y agoAccess to the truth is perhaps the most basic prerequisite condition for it being useful. Once access is cut off, no other conditions matter.