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"The harder I work the luckier I get." comes to mind.

snarf21 10y ago
Exactly. Luck favors the prepared mind - Louis Pasteur
anigbrowl 10y ago
People in coal mines work pretty hard. Are they getting luckier, do you think? This is an absolutely great maxim for people who are fortunate or wise enough to be working on developing their own abilities and position. For the majority of people who are working hard to get paid to pay bills to have life's necessities, but don't have much energy or idea what to do beyond that, it's a cruel joke.
- vacri 10y ago
  I don't know about elsewhere, but here in Australia, miners get to use heavy equipment to do what used to be back-breaking labour, and salaries tend to start at twice the national median. Modern miners are not the poorest-of-the-poor picture of yesteryear.
  - Avshalom 10y ago
    So they're not working hard and they're at the top?
  - anigbrowl 10y ago
    Brilliant evasion of the point there
    - vacri 10y ago
      I was just suggesting you update your mental image of coal miners from the 1950s to the 21st century. I remember one politician here a couple of years ago defending miners in his electorate as 'battlers' (aussie slang for poor who are trying to make ends meet)... and at a time when the national median wage was $57k and median household income was $77k, the 'battler' he was defending made $110k...
      - anigbrowl 10y ago
        It's not so much that I have a particular image of coal miners as people still do the more traditional back breaking labor sort of coal mining in the country where I live. The point is that people do heavy manual labor and it doesn't necessarily advance their economic interests, not to comment on the state of the coal industry in 2017.
mikestew 10y ago
Hmm, seems to work the opposite for me. Baling hay, one of the most demanding jobs I've ever had: a bit over minimum wage. Writing software, where my ping pong sessions are occasionally interrupted by work that involves sitting at a desk: fat stacks of Benjamins.

Exactly. Luck favors the prepared mind - Louis Pasteur

People in coal mines work pretty hard. Are they getting luckier, do you think? This is an absolutely great maxim for people who are fortunate or wise enough to be working on developing their own abilities and position. For the majority of people who are working hard to get paid to pay bills to have life's necessities, but don't have much energy or idea what to do beyond that, it's a cruel joke.

vacri 10y ago
I don't know about elsewhere, but here in Australia, miners get to use heavy equipment to do what used to be back-breaking labour, and salaries tend to start at twice the national median. Modern miners are not the poorest-of-the-poor picture of yesteryear.
- Avshalom 10y ago
  So they're not working hard and they're at the top?
- anigbrowl 10y ago
  Brilliant evasion of the point there
  - vacri 10y ago
    I was just suggesting you update your mental image of coal miners from the 1950s to the 21st century. I remember one politician here a couple of years ago defending miners in his electorate as 'battlers' (aussie slang for poor who are trying to make ends meet)... and at a time when the national median wage was $57k and median household income was $77k, the 'battler' he was defending made $110k...
    - anigbrowl 10y ago
      It's not so much that I have a particular image of coal miners as people still do the more traditional back breaking labor sort of coal mining in the country where I live. The point is that people do heavy manual labor and it doesn't necessarily advance their economic interests, not to comment on the state of the coal industry in 2017.

mikestew 10y ago

Hmm, seems to work the opposite for me. Baling hay, one of the most demanding jobs I've ever had: a bit over minimum wage. Writing software, where my ping pong sessions are occasionally interrupted by work that involves sitting at a desk: fat stacks of Benjamins.