3 ms·
People like you gravely mix two very different concepts: not giving even more help to someone with being at fault for that someone's problems. We can/should he
by jbmorgado 9y ago
People like you gravely mix two very different concepts: not giving even more help to someone with being at fault for that someone's problems.
We can/should help those in need and in fact we do help those in need, but don't put the blame on us for those people grave conditions in the first place.
- erikb 9y agoWe have actually part in creating the Syrian war, and we are also one of the sources of why Turkey makes this political swing now. For instance we should have known that if we don't consider Turkey as a partner, that they will at some point say "x you" and look for support from others. We could've also considered how we can take care of the refugees instead of dropping them on weaker governments. And we could have also considered how to treat Greece like a part of our community instead of sucking them more and more dry, which leaves all other fringe EU countries wondering how they will be treated if they ever get weaker.
- jbmorgado 9y agoOh, so it's our fault that we asked for decades (while putting a lot of money there in EU lost funds) that: - Turkey brought their legal institutions to the modern times - that Turkey showed more respect for democratic and humanistic principles - that Turkey respected more the civil rights of their citizens - that Turkey respected their ethnic minorities (like the Kurds) - Turkey recognized a member of the EU as an actual country (Cyprus). And then, after Turkey failed yet, and yet again to address all those problems and we told them patiently yet again, that they needed to address those problems and they still didn't, they decided they are not going to really try and reverted the little work they had done. And you come and blame the EU for wanting Turkey to become a country that actually respects the right of its own citizens. How could we be so heartless, right?
- erikb 9y ago> Oh, so it's our fault Yes. You still haven't managed to think about what's our fault and why yet, though.
- tobltobs 9y agoWhat about Albania, Macedonia, Montenegro, Serbia, Georgia, Moldova, and Ukraine. If they are not offered the unconditional membership the EU will be responsible for all bad things which will happen there?