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Florida. Sunny, has many beaches. Broadband even in small towns like Palatka. Low cost of living. A good balance of all kinds of crazy. You can even own guns, a

Florida. Sunny, has many beaches. Broadband even in small towns like Palatka. Low cost of living. A good balance of all kinds of crazy. You can even own guns, a big truck and more guns while living on a large river if you so choose all on a salary of about 60k. Then you're just a half hour away from nice size cities.

masklinn 10y ago
Florida seems like an absolutely terrible place to get out of totalitarian risk considering the current executive and legislative at both state and federal levels.
- virmundi 10y ago
  It only seems like that. As I said Florida is a nice balance of crazy. We've got several metropolitan areas that appeal to the leftist. We've got a lot of conservative areas too. For the most part people just leave you alone. Florida also has some of the most liberal information laws on the books. That's why we look so crazy. We're also heavily armed with 10s of thousands of former military that take their oaths to the constitution seriously. If we were to have a civil war, I like Florida's odds. Also, the US government wouldn't nuke their own people. If they did, they won't target Florida. Since those are off the table, we're talking about a traditional war. As we've seen with Afghanistan, the US military doesn't know how to fight an asymetric war. Good luck trying to get people that live in the hundreds of square miles of swamp. Arms are a big factor. Europe is at far greater risk of authoritarian regimes because their people are effectively disarmed. A few single shot shotguns won't do much. If only their population had ready access to AK47s, AR 15's or event bullpups out of Israel.
  - cardiffspaceman 10y ago
    > Florida also has some of the most liberal information laws on the books. That's why we look so crazy. I think this bears emphasis: Pretty much every crime report provided to or made by the police within Florida, silly or sublime, is available to the public [1]. This is a gold mine for people who want to run a "stranger than fiction" web site. It could distort one's view of what Florida is like. [1] http://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/how-floridas-proud-open-government-laws-lead-to-the-shame-of-florida-man-news-stories-7608595 http://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/how-floridas-proud-open-go...
ameen 10y ago
I live in Tampa and love it here. It isn't as conservative as touted. But the recent news out of Cleveland has me on my edge. I don't want to live in a place where crazed individuals can carry guns freely.
- virmundi 10y ago
  Here's the thing, unless you could somehow get rid of every gun on the planet, crazy with a gun is a thing. Given that people can hand craft a revolver with parts from Home Depot, guns are a thing. I am fairly liberal. I'd rather allow good guys with guns to carry than not. It's better to allow people liberty than to take it away in the name of safety. It's better to realize that anyone can make highly damaging weapons at home (looking at you Boston Bomber).

masklinn 10y ago

Florida seems like an absolutely terrible place to get out of totalitarian risk considering the current executive and legislative at both state and federal levels.

virmundi 10y ago
It only seems like that. As I said Florida is a nice balance of crazy. We've got several metropolitan areas that appeal to the leftist. We've got a lot of conservative areas too. For the most part people just leave you alone. Florida also has some of the most liberal information laws on the books. That's why we look so crazy. We're also heavily armed with 10s of thousands of former military that take their oaths to the constitution seriously. If we were to have a civil war, I like Florida's odds. Also, the US government wouldn't nuke their own people. If they did, they won't target Florida. Since those are off the table, we're talking about a traditional war. As we've seen with Afghanistan, the US military doesn't know how to fight an asymetric war. Good luck trying to get people that live in the hundreds of square miles of swamp. Arms are a big factor. Europe is at far greater risk of authoritarian regimes because their people are effectively disarmed. A few single shot shotguns won't do much. If only their population had ready access to AK47s, AR 15's or event bullpups out of Israel.
- cardiffspaceman 10y ago
  > Florida also has some of the most liberal information laws on the books. That's why we look so crazy. I think this bears emphasis: Pretty much every crime report provided to or made by the police within Florida, silly or sublime, is available to the public [1]. This is a gold mine for people who want to run a "stranger than fiction" web site. It could distort one's view of what Florida is like. [1] http://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/how-floridas-proud-open-government-laws-lead-to-the-shame-of-florida-man-news-stories-7608595 http://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/how-floridas-proud-open-go...

ameen 10y ago

I live in Tampa and love it here. It isn't as conservative as touted. But the recent news out of Cleveland has me on my edge. I don't want to live in a place where crazed individuals can carry guns freely.

virmundi 10y ago
Here's the thing, unless you could somehow get rid of every gun on the planet, crazy with a gun is a thing. Given that people can hand craft a revolver with parts from Home Depot, guns are a thing. I am fairly liberal. I'd rather allow good guys with guns to carry than not. It's better to allow people liberty than to take it away in the name of safety. It's better to realize that anyone can make highly damaging weapons at home (looking at you Boston Bomber).