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> the “iOS First” release once again speaks to Apple’s priorities, to its vision of its future I actually disagree about the reasoning behind this strategy. iO

> the “iOS First” release once again speaks to Apple’s priorities, to its vision of its future I actually disagree about the reasoning behind this strategy. iOS may be more important to Apple at the moment, in terms of market value, but there's a better reason to target it first. iOS is deployed to constrained systems, iPhone, iPad, appleTV... this is easier to test because there will be less variance to deal with than on macOS deployments. It makes a ton of sense to start there for technical reasons so that they can validate it in more consistent environments.

Someone 10y ago
Also, they _know_ that many of those devices are backed up regularly to iCloud (they may know which ones were recently sync’ed with Mac, too). That diminishes the risks even further.
Karunamon 10y ago
I'm not so sure.. if you look at Apple's direction over the last ten years or so, you see a lot of convergence happening. Off the top of my head: * Siri on the desktop * Gatekeeper getting more restrictive * SIP * Neglect of pro users * New stuff showing up on iOS first
- bluejekyll 10y ago
  I was speaking specifically of this filesystem released to the wild, not about other new features outside of this context.
eric_h 10y ago
I'd also like to mention that it is extremely impressive that Apple was able to transparently swap out the filesystem, with no data loss, on millions of devices. I've not heard of anyone who had serious issues with the update. It was an incredible technical achievement.
- linkmotif 10y ago
  Yeah that's amazing. More generally, Apple was providing working OS upgrades for years while the notion of upgrading Windows between major versions was basically laughable. Wasn't Windows 8 the first version of Windows that you could actually upgrade to and have the system boot successfully? Maybe Vista to 7 worked for people. I never bothered trying. But I remember upgrading from OS X 10.3 to 10.4 and being floored when everything just worked.
  - antxxxx 10y ago
    You might want to look at http://rasteri.blogspot.co.uk/2011/03/chain-of-fools-upgrading-through-every.html?m=1 http://rasteri.blogspot.co.uk/2011/03/chain-of-fools-upgradi... to see an upgrade of windows 1 through to windows 7 and see most things still working
    - eric_h 10y ago
      That's a cool little project, but it runs counter to almost every Windows upgrade I've ever performed. The natural bit rot of long running windows installations has always made a fresh install a much stronger guarantee of success than an upgrade.
      - derefr 10y ago
        My guess is that it's the keeping around of third-party drivers made for the previous OS that causes the majority of upgrade "rot." If older editions of Windows just forcibly purged all the drivers when you upgraded, and told you to reinstall them afresh from the installation CD/OEM site (where you'd then get a version that's maybe for your current OS instead), that could have saved everyone quite a few headaches. Then again, with major peripherals (displays, keyboards/mice, Ethernet cards, USB controllers) being much less standard than today, ripping out the OEM's driver could wedge your computer.
        eric_h 10y ago
nkkollaw 10y ago
Yes, if anything because they know exactly what apps are installed, and where they come from. No custom configurations, scripts, or anything. Possibility to help the user make a backup via iCloud (harder to do on Mac). Also, you might argue that if you had to lose it, you'd rather lose data on your phone then your computer. I backup my computer every hour with Time Machine, but if I lost my phone I would care the slightest if I had to install again from a 10-day-old backup.

Someone 10y ago

Also, they _know_ that many of those devices are backed up regularly to iCloud (they may know which ones were recently sync’ed with Mac, too). That diminishes the risks even further.

Karunamon 10y ago

I'm not so sure.. if you look at Apple's direction over the last ten years or so, you see a lot of convergence happening. Off the top of my head: * Siri on the desktop * Gatekeeper getting more restrictive * SIP * Neglect of pro users * New stuff showing up on iOS first

bluejekyll 10y ago
I was speaking specifically of this filesystem released to the wild, not about other new features outside of this context.

eric_h 10y ago

I'd also like to mention that it is extremely impressive that Apple was able to transparently swap out the filesystem, with no data loss, on millions of devices. I've not heard of anyone who had serious issues with the update. It was an incredible technical achievement.

linkmotif 10y ago
Yeah that's amazing. More generally, Apple was providing working OS upgrades for years while the notion of upgrading Windows between major versions was basically laughable. Wasn't Windows 8 the first version of Windows that you could actually upgrade to and have the system boot successfully? Maybe Vista to 7 worked for people. I never bothered trying. But I remember upgrading from OS X 10.3 to 10.4 and being floored when everything just worked.
- antxxxx 10y ago
  You might want to look at http://rasteri.blogspot.co.uk/2011/03/chain-of-fools-upgrading-through-every.html?m=1 http://rasteri.blogspot.co.uk/2011/03/chain-of-fools-upgradi... to see an upgrade of windows 1 through to windows 7 and see most things still working
  - eric_h 10y ago
    That's a cool little project, but it runs counter to almost every Windows upgrade I've ever performed. The natural bit rot of long running windows installations has always made a fresh install a much stronger guarantee of success than an upgrade.
    - derefr 10y ago
      My guess is that it's the keeping around of third-party drivers made for the previous OS that causes the majority of upgrade "rot." If older editions of Windows just forcibly purged all the drivers when you upgraded, and told you to reinstall them afresh from the installation CD/OEM site (where you'd then get a version that's maybe for your current OS instead), that could have saved everyone quite a few headaches. Then again, with major peripherals (displays, keyboards/mice, Ethernet cards, USB controllers) being much less standard than today, ripping out the OEM's driver could wedge your computer.
      - eric_h 10y ago

nkkollaw 10y ago

Yes, if anything because they know exactly what apps are installed, and where they come from. No custom configurations, scripts, or anything. Possibility to help the user make a backup via iCloud (harder to do on Mac). Also, you might argue that if you had to lose it, you'd rather lose data on your phone then your computer. I backup my computer every hour with Time Machine, but if I lost my phone I would care the slightest if I had to install again from a 10-day-old backup.