Yeah, this concept that people like having a "sense of mission in their lives" that only a job can fill is such insidious nonsense I lose respect for anyone who

Yeah, this concept that people like having a "sense of mission in their lives" that only a job can fill is such insidious nonsense I lose respect for anyone who repeats it. It's true that people prefer jobs to handouts, and that retirees are different from people collecting benefits. You know why people like having jobs? Because they want to have control over their lives. It's not about the joy of work or finding a convenient way to meet people for actual ordinary people, it's about knowing that the money in your bank account came from something you did, and it isn't going to go away. People don't want to be at the mercy of some faraway bureaucracy, they want to be paid for their own labor and save their own money. If you implemented a UBI system and then forced everyone to head to the labor camps, this wouldn't make them any happier; it's not about the work, it's about who they perceive as in control. Honestly, this is the reason (as much as certain parts of the SV or HN set recoil at the thought) that it's important to have diversity across class, culture, race, and gender at these sort of discussions about broad social policy. Of course Sam Altman can jet over to the Family and say "You know, people like having to go to work every day." It's such a hilariously out-of-touch thing to even suggest I can no longer take his ideas seriously. When the first things that come into your mind when you think of a job are "having a sense of mission in your life" and "going to the office to see your cool, fun colleagues" you are too far removed from the daily reality of everyone outside your bubble to make remotely reasonable suggestions on large economic reform.