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Am I the only who likes Ubuntu's latest decisions ? It seems like they are refocusing their efforts on their core, rather than being stretched.

helthanatos 9y ago
I love their decision. The only problem is I don't really like GNOME. But I do like that Ubuntu is now targeting projects that are being developed by others and they are stopping their phone projects. Lately, I've had issues with Ubuntu in my VM not allowing me to use the tweak tool and some other odd issues I haven't seen.
- unixhero 9y ago
  Then install something else. Like any of the 30+ window managers that exist. The software center is two clicks away.
  - Karunamon 9y ago
    This ignores the fact that the default configuration is where most attention, and so bug fixing work is going to be. That said, I'm more annoyed that Ubuntu users will now be exposed to GNOME's user-hostile design. I went looking for a good example or two, but some [1] kind soul did a lot of the compiling for me. I still have no idea who G3's target user is. Worse, I don't think they do either. [1]: https://wiki.samat.org/GNOMEIsAntiUser https://wiki.samat.org/GNOMEIsAntiUser
    - ColanR 9y ago
      The stuff on that list you linked to seems pretty minor... (Disclosure: I'm running Ubuntu Gnome 17.04 on my Linux machine)
      - Karunamon 9y ago
        How many pretty minor things does it take before a pattern is established? And of course, they're all minor - until they break your workflow, and the developers politely tell you where to insert your bug report when you rightly raise a complaint about it. I'd rather use a UI that has little-to-no danger of a feature I use daily being ripped out from under me because some engineer who doesn't know: * What user is using their product * What user they are designing their product for * How their product is used in real life ..decides to make unilateral decisions with no possibility for reconsideration.
seiferteric 9y ago
My only problem is that I really wanted an ubuntu phone...
nominated1 9y ago
For the first time in years I’m considering Debian. Not because Ubuntu is bad in any way, there just seems to be less difference between it and upstream Debian these days. Many are praising this as a good thing and I don’t disagree. As an end user I’m just thinking “is there enough difference, why not run the original?”.
- angry-hacker 9y ago
  There really isn't that much. I've been using Debian for a year and have to Google s lot of questions because I'm a beginner and learn a lot, hack a lot, fuck up s lot. I haven't found a solution that doesn't work on Debian. My searches are 'how to... On ubuntu', 'error this.. Ubuntu '.

helthanatos 9y ago

I love their decision. The only problem is I don't really like GNOME. But I do like that Ubuntu is now targeting projects that are being developed by others and they are stopping their phone projects. Lately, I've had issues with Ubuntu in my VM not allowing me to use the tweak tool and some other odd issues I haven't seen.

unixhero 9y ago
Then install something else. Like any of the 30+ window managers that exist. The software center is two clicks away.
- Karunamon 9y ago
  This ignores the fact that the default configuration is where most attention, and so bug fixing work is going to be. That said, I'm more annoyed that Ubuntu users will now be exposed to GNOME's user-hostile design. I went looking for a good example or two, but some [1] kind soul did a lot of the compiling for me. I still have no idea who G3's target user is. Worse, I don't think they do either. [1]: https://wiki.samat.org/GNOMEIsAntiUser https://wiki.samat.org/GNOMEIsAntiUser
  - ColanR 9y ago
    The stuff on that list you linked to seems pretty minor... (Disclosure: I'm running Ubuntu Gnome 17.04 on my Linux machine)
    - Karunamon 9y ago
      How many pretty minor things does it take before a pattern is established? And of course, they're all minor - until they break your workflow, and the developers politely tell you where to insert your bug report when you rightly raise a complaint about it. I'd rather use a UI that has little-to-no danger of a feature I use daily being ripped out from under me because some engineer who doesn't know: * What user is using their product * What user they are designing their product for * How their product is used in real life ..decides to make unilateral decisions with no possibility for reconsideration.

seiferteric 9y ago

My only problem is that I really wanted an ubuntu phone...

nominated1 9y ago

For the first time in years I’m considering Debian. Not because Ubuntu is bad in any way, there just seems to be less difference between it and upstream Debian these days. Many are praising this as a good thing and I don’t disagree. As an end user I’m just thinking “is there enough difference, why not run the original?”.

angry-hacker 9y ago
There really isn't that much. I've been using Debian for a year and have to Google s lot of questions because I'm a beginner and learn a lot, hack a lot, fuck up s lot. I haven't found a solution that doesn't work on Debian. My searches are 'how to... On ubuntu', 'error this.. Ubuntu '.