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Trust: Our World in Data

51 points by hunglee2 10y ago

rodionos 10y ago
> See source for further details regarding specific survey question. Can't locate the actual survey questions. Trust is a highly interpretive concept. It'd be great to see the questions on the survey before diving into conclusions.
- _glass 10y ago
  See here for the actual questions. http://www.worldvaluessurvey.org/WVSDocumentationWV6.jsp http://www.worldvaluessurvey.org/WVSDocumentationWV6.jsp
_glass 10y ago
Research as taught in my Masters has generally broken away from the big general quantitative research in values. It is seen as banal results from banal questions. Trust is an important part of culture and therefore has to be interpreted in a rich context which is taken away. It makes just sense to evaluate trust if one takes into account the other values in a cultural system as its value is just given by the other concurring parts, e.g. honor, privacy.
phoenixProgram 10y ago
This is really dumb. You're asking a bunch of simulations whether or not they believe in some fact which is essentially pure metaphysics. Doing statistics with metaphysics is very close to Nazi-level abstraction of human beings. Pretending that you are going to get sympathy for your Nazi wet dream...not likely. I'm going to make sure you know why "Nazi wet dream" is an appropriate name for this work. You have decided to slice and dice human beings a la Phoenix Program. Cut them up and make numbers and watch them try to put their lives back together. Absolute pure evil. Keep in mind this fact: the most evil civilians on planet earth look at spreadsheets full of numbers all day every day. Those numbers are used to rip the lives of other people apart, and this evil psychopath justifies this on the grounds that his society lets him get away with a heinous act of abstraction. Huxley said this about abstractions: "All war propaganda consists, in the last resort, in substituting diabolical abstractions for human beings. Similarly, those who defend war have invented a pleasant sounding vocabulary of abstractions in which to describe the process of mass murder." This is war propaganda suitable for justifying mass murder.
miej 10y ago
I just want to point out the notably inconsistent formatting of the presented data in this article. It's like a tour de force of how to create misleading representations from "accurate" data. Specifically, keep an eye out for what is used as the min/max values on the various axes, as well as interval sizing.

51 points by hunglee2 10y ago

> See source for further details regarding specific survey question. Can't locate the actual survey questions. Trust is a highly interpretive concept. It'd be great to see the questions on the survey before diving into conclusions.

_glass 10y ago
See here for the actual questions. http://www.worldvaluessurvey.org/WVSDocumentationWV6.jsp http://www.worldvaluessurvey.org/WVSDocumentationWV6.jsp

_glass 10y ago

Research as taught in my Masters has generally broken away from the big general quantitative research in values. It is seen as banal results from banal questions. Trust is an important part of culture and therefore has to be interpreted in a rich context which is taken away. It makes just sense to evaluate trust if one takes into account the other values in a cultural system as its value is just given by the other concurring parts, e.g. honor, privacy.

phoenixProgram 10y ago

This is really dumb. You're asking a bunch of simulations whether or not they believe in some fact which is essentially pure metaphysics. Doing statistics with metaphysics is very close to Nazi-level abstraction of human beings. Pretending that you are going to get sympathy for your Nazi wet dream...not likely. I'm going to make sure you know why "Nazi wet dream" is an appropriate name for this work. You have decided to slice and dice human beings a la Phoenix Program. Cut them up and make numbers and watch them try to put their lives back together. Absolute pure evil. Keep in mind this fact: the most evil civilians on planet earth look at spreadsheets full of numbers all day every day. Those numbers are used to rip the lives of other people apart, and this evil psychopath justifies this on the grounds that his society lets him get away with a heinous act of abstraction. Huxley said this about abstractions: "All war propaganda consists, in the last resort, in substituting diabolical abstractions for human beings. Similarly, those who defend war have invented a pleasant sounding vocabulary of abstractions in which to describe the process of mass murder." This is war propaganda suitable for justifying mass murder.

miej 10y ago

I just want to point out the notably inconsistent formatting of the presented data in this article. It's like a tour de force of how to create misleading representations from "accurate" data. Specifically, keep an eye out for what is used as the min/max values on the various axes, as well as interval sizing.