3 ms·
Yup. That's literally the only reason the NSA (and CIA) exists. If they are spying on US citizens (which has been proven) then that's a huge issue. Since it'
by phil21 10y ago
Yup. That's literally the only reason the NSA (and CIA) exists. If they are spying on US citizens (which has been proven) then that's a huge issue. Since it's unconstitutional.
Spying on foreign powers? That's part of the game. Every single country is doing it to the US, and I see absolutely no moral issue being better than them at it.
- 3131s 10y agoSo your argument is essentially, "we created those agencies for that purpose, therefore it's ok what they're doing". You don't see how that doesn't actually follow? > Spying on foreign powers Foreign governments would be one thing (IMO still probably wrong, especially so if it's an ally), but US agencies are spying on all foreign citizens. > Every single country is doing it to the US Yeah, source please. And scale matters.
- bigbugbag 10y ago>> Every single country is doing it to the US >Yeah, source please. And scale matters. I've seen the argument parroted around in the comments but it makes no sense. Bangladesh, Tanzania, Namibia, Laos, Cyprus, Rwanda, Haïti, Somalia just to name a few of the many who lack the resources to spy on a foreign superpower and have other more important priorities to deal with. Somehow they also fail to understand that CIA and NSA were created in a specific historical (post-WW2 / cold war) context that has now expired. They have outlived their initial purposes and found other ways to justify their existences and budget since.