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Note that in the UK, iPhone 4 will be simultaneously available for three carriers: O2, Orange, and Vodafone. Does anyone have any insights as to how AT&T is ma

by portman 16y ago

Note that in the UK, iPhone 4 will be simultaneously available for three carriers: O2, Orange, and Vodafone. Does anyone have any insights as to how AT&T is maintaining its iPhone exclusivity in the US? It's obviously great for AT&T, but seems to be very bad for Apple.

andreyf 16y ago
Does anyone have any insights as to how AT&T is maintaining its iPhone exclusivity in the US? It's obviously great for AT&T, but seems to be very bad for Apple. Yes: Apple signed a contract that gave them exclusivity until 2012. I'm guessing AT&T lawyers did a good job wording that clause.
- portman 16y ago
  http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/confirmed-apple-and-atandt-signed-five-year-iphone-exclusivity-de/ http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/confirmed-apple-and-atand... I had always thought it was a 3-year deal expiring in 2010. I didn't see this news when it broke last month. So, no great mystery here.
cgomez 16y ago
Well, the UK situation involves three GSM carriers. In the United States, the only prominent GSM competitor to AT&T is T-Mobile, and they have no need or intention to get their phone on a budget carrier. With Verizon, they'd have to design different hardware and deal with the fact that EV-DO Rev. A on CDMA is on the way out and LTE is going to be lit up for about 100M subscribers by January 2011.
veemjeem 16y ago
So in other words, everyone in the world will be using the iPhone with their favorite carrier, and thus competes equally with Android, except for people in the States who will be stuck with AT&T for a few more years.
aditya 16y ago
Bad for Apple how? AT&T is paying quite a bit for this privilege. As high as $18 / mo / iPhone according to http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-9803657-37.html http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-9803657-37.html
- bruceboughton 16y ago
  Right now I think Apple cares more about the image AT&T is giving the iPhone than the money their paying for the privilege. The iPhone is not just for 5 Christmas's...
phsr 16y ago
With both AT&T and Verizon rolling out LTE networks over the next year, it makes little sense creating a CDMA version of the iPhone only to have an LTE iPhone replace both GSM and CDMA iPhones. I think its more likely that the next iPhone could be on Verizon first, then AT&T since Verizon is rolling out their LTE network faster than AT&T.
drivebyacct 16y ago
Apple has benefited far more than AT&T... look at the stock prices or revenues gained. I'm not saying they're benefitting specifically from exclusivity... they would make more with more carriers to be sure... but the notion that it's "bad for Apple" doesn't seem to float.

by portman 16y ago

andreyf 16y ago

Does anyone have any insights as to how AT&T is maintaining its iPhone exclusivity in the US? It's obviously great for AT&T, but seems to be very bad for Apple. Yes: Apple signed a contract that gave them exclusivity until 2012. I'm guessing AT&T lawyers did a good job wording that clause.

portman 16y ago
http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/confirmed-apple-and-atandt-signed-five-year-iphone-exclusivity-de/ http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/confirmed-apple-and-atand... I had always thought it was a 3-year deal expiring in 2010. I didn't see this news when it broke last month. So, no great mystery here.

cgomez 16y ago

Well, the UK situation involves three GSM carriers. In the United States, the only prominent GSM competitor to AT&T is T-Mobile, and they have no need or intention to get their phone on a budget carrier. With Verizon, they'd have to design different hardware and deal with the fact that EV-DO Rev. A on CDMA is on the way out and LTE is going to be lit up for about 100M subscribers by January 2011.

veemjeem 16y ago

So in other words, everyone in the world will be using the iPhone with their favorite carrier, and thus competes equally with Android, except for people in the States who will be stuck with AT&T for a few more years.

aditya 16y ago

Bad for Apple how? AT&T is paying quite a bit for this privilege. As high as $18 / mo / iPhone according to http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-9803657-37.html http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-9803657-37.html

bruceboughton 16y ago
Right now I think Apple cares more about the image AT&T is giving the iPhone than the money their paying for the privilege. The iPhone is not just for 5 Christmas's...

phsr 16y ago

With both AT&T and Verizon rolling out LTE networks over the next year, it makes little sense creating a CDMA version of the iPhone only to have an LTE iPhone replace both GSM and CDMA iPhones. I think its more likely that the next iPhone could be on Verizon first, then AT&T since Verizon is rolling out their LTE network faster than AT&T.

drivebyacct 16y ago

Apple has benefited far more than AT&T... look at the stock prices or revenues gained. I'm not saying they're benefitting specifically from exclusivity... they would make more with more carriers to be sure... but the notion that it's "bad for Apple" doesn't seem to float.