About Google: I really like their security approach for Chrome/V8, and NaCL looks amazing (in particular the upcoming LLVM version.) Chrome OS isn't here yet bu

About Google: I really like their security approach for Chrome/V8, and NaCL looks amazing (in particular the upcoming LLVM version.) Chrome OS isn't here yet but the concept looks very interesting for security (not so much for privacy and other aspects, though.) > what I think is happening is that you've once again bumped > into someone on Hacker News that isn't simply going to concede > the point to the person with the greater zeal for the issue. I hold a very slightly different view from yours (e.g. I think Microsoft is doing a lot about security and other giants should take note, as in the original reply.) It is sad people look for absolute right and wrong. Why can't we have both different views and not necessarily be wrong? In particular on a difference in opinion. > I get it. You like OpenBSD. You prefer open source. I like some things about OpenBSD, in particular their code auditing, but of course it's far from perfect. If I remember well, more than once Theo argued against something and later on it became a major feature of the project. About projects, I consider myself a bit of a sad agnostic lately. In particular I haven't used OpenBSD in a long time. > You prefer open source. Yes. But I happen to use closed source everyday and don't have problem with that. I use iWork to create PDFs and slides, sometimes. Hah, I'm even OK with crappy proprietary software (iTues+iPod), nothing I can't handle. Apple, and in particular OS X and Safari, in the security side are a disgrace. But I can live with it (e.g. use Chrome with JS/Flash disabled by default, use TrueCrypt and other encryption software as much as possible, and be very careful where I plug my notebook and what I authorize in it.) > Unfortunately, your ideology doesn't change the facts on the ground. What ideology? You just did a (bad) guess at my stance. And even if you were right, it was just ad-hominem. Counter example: I hate Google's anti-privacy hypocrisy. Same for their server-side services, and [also for] removing power from the users. Microsoft always empowered users with tools, it's their business model. I liked them a lot [back then] when things changed from server-side borderline authoritarian systems [to empowered Wintel PCs]. And now the world is coming back to [centralized systems], sadly.