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I don't get this attitude at all... Have you ever worked for a tech company with inspired people who liked to build things? I have a mid 2014 fully loaded MBP.

I don't get this attitude at all... Have you ever worked for a tech company with inspired people who liked to build things? I have a mid 2014 fully loaded MBP. Don't feel like listing everything I run on my laptop here. I realize the latest MBP is a great piece of technology, but that isn't the point here...

Razengan 10y ago
I don't get people who just parrot second-hand opinions about something they haven't tried, but I'll apologize if I mistakenly pegged you as one. Ever since the launch of the new MBPs, it has become sort of a meme to rag on them, and it's almost always by people who haven't even used one. Nobody seems to be able to really come up with a reason WHY they're not good. When pressed, those people just resort to inane hyperboles and grasp at flimsy straws, like "emoji keyboard" and "over 9000 dongles!" When offered the fact that the new MBPs have outsold everything else out there [0], they pooh-pooh it with "That's only because of the long delay between releases!" pff. Other than the fact that you may need at most 1-2 extra pieces of equipment to plug in your legacy devices, the 2016 MBP can do everything your 2014 can. I'm a power user and consider myself an inspired person who likes to build things; I have the 2016 15" MBP, and it appeases me. So your point in the original comment is invalid, unless you want to play the "I'm more of a power user than you!" game. [0] http://www.forbes.com/sites/brookecrothers/2016/11/08/new-2016-macbook-pro-sales-defy-criticism-initial-revenue-strong-says-market-researcher/ http://www.forbes.com/sites/brookecrothers/2016/11/08/new-20...
- pokemongoaway 10y ago
  There are other ways to argue my point without doing something as ad hominem as claiming to be a better power user than you. And, by the way, do you think boiling it down to this at the end of your comment qualifies as, "dismissive argumentation?" For example, I could say that many of us perpetuate these memes because we see a trend away from what we like - and toward something we're trying to prevent. The trend toward increasingly proprietary hardware, and the trend away from interoperability. The trend for OSX and iOS to become more similar. A trend toward Apple-dependency, and a trend away from self-reliance. A trend toward more uniformity, more control in fewer hands, and about the future of HCI, design, and software engineering practices. So while most of us criticizing are more than happy to use and purchase a 2016 MBP - I won't speak for anyone else - but I hesitate to invest further in a product I will use daily for many years, and that has such a potential influence.

Razengan 10y ago

I don't get people who just parrot second-hand opinions about something they haven't tried, but I'll apologize if I mistakenly pegged you as one. Ever since the launch of the new MBPs, it has become sort of a meme to rag on them, and it's almost always by people who haven't even used one. Nobody seems to be able to really come up with a reason WHY they're not good. When pressed, those people just resort to inane hyperboles and grasp at flimsy straws, like "emoji keyboard" and "over 9000 dongles!" When offered the fact that the new MBPs have outsold everything else out there [0], they pooh-pooh it with "That's only because of the long delay between releases!" pff. Other than the fact that you may need at most 1-2 extra pieces of equipment to plug in your legacy devices, the 2016 MBP can do everything your 2014 can. I'm a power user and consider myself an inspired person who likes to build things; I have the 2016 15" MBP, and it appeases me. So your point in the original comment is invalid, unless you want to play the "I'm more of a power user than you!" game. [0] http://www.forbes.com/sites/brookecrothers/2016/11/08/new-2016-macbook-pro-sales-defy-criticism-initial-revenue-strong-says-market-researcher/ http://www.forbes.com/sites/brookecrothers/2016/11/08/new-20...

pokemongoaway 10y ago
There are other ways to argue my point without doing something as ad hominem as claiming to be a better power user than you. And, by the way, do you think boiling it down to this at the end of your comment qualifies as, "dismissive argumentation?" For example, I could say that many of us perpetuate these memes because we see a trend away from what we like - and toward something we're trying to prevent. The trend toward increasingly proprietary hardware, and the trend away from interoperability. The trend for OSX and iOS to become more similar. A trend toward Apple-dependency, and a trend away from self-reliance. A trend toward more uniformity, more control in fewer hands, and about the future of HCI, design, and software engineering practices. So while most of us criticizing are more than happy to use and purchase a 2016 MBP - I won't speak for anyone else - but I hesitate to invest further in a product I will use daily for many years, and that has such a potential influence.