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>The reason these things aren't discussed is because they shouldn't have to be discussed. Whether one chooses to analyze the economics or ignore it, the fabric
by jasode 10y ago
>The reason these things aren't discussed is because they shouldn't have to be discussed.
Whether one chooses to analyze the economics or ignore it, the fabric of monetary incentives is always there because harddrives and bandwidth are not $0.00. Even ephemeral things like "trust" and "reputation" are not zero cost to implement. Maintenance tasks such as
"software installs" and "upgrades" are also not free.
If those costs (which are never specified -- and can't be specified) in the technical protocols are not mentally accounted for, it will seem like "centralization" is some weird illogical phenomenon. One would incorrectly believe that the masses haven't adopted distributed protocol stacks like IPFS, sandstorm.io, Diaspora, GNUSocial etc because the "technology" is a problem. If you focus on technology like that, you'll just end up inventing another distributed protocol that non-geeks will not use.
Put another way, you can write a paper specification that such & such protocol is designed for decentralized deployment. You can also draw out an architecture diagram that illustrates how peer-2-peer nodes can be federated, etc. However, all those intentions still have to be executed in the real world and the real world costs money. That is why decentralized protocols/tools like SMTP and Git coalesce into centralized entities like Gmail/Hotmail and Github.
E.g. the Git specification about BLOBs, sha1 hashes, etc does not include a free $10/month VPS server. Therefore, if I want to post a public repo without having to use my credit-card to pay for bandwidth, I can just put it on Github. Thousands of people making that similar economic decision leads to a centralized Github.
- kuschku 10y agoBut this can not be solved. The only way to solve this is having a rich entity subsidize it. And those can only be either companies trying to abuse your data for their own profit, corporate and noncorporate entities that try to do good (foundations, NGOs, etc), universities, or governments. That's why I said what I said. The web can only work if we get rid of the corporations, or massively regulate them while subsidizing the independent projects. That’s why the Prototype Fund exists https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12200777 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12200777, why the German government has previously funded GPG, why the German government and the EU have funded work on KDE several times https://www.cnet.com/news/germany-funded-linux-software-arriving/ https://www.cnet.com/news/germany-funded-linux-software-arri..., why universities fund open source work often, etc.