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And yet there's still no sane way to move data from my laptop to my desktop without physical media. As long as it is easier to send the data round trip to a da
by na85 10y ago
And yet there's still no sane way to move data from my laptop to my desktop without physical media.
As long as it is easier to send the data round trip to a datacentre in Kansas and back than it is to send it within my own lan, physical media will always be "a thing of the present"
- gpm 10y agoI transfer files like that all the time. Run sshd on your desktop (assuming your behind a NAT there are nearly 0 security issues with this), when you want to transfer files `rsync username@desktops_ip:remote_file local_file`. Alternatively use something like syncthing.
- ams6110 10y agoSomewhere > 100GB, (or less, depending on connection speeds) sending physical media is faster. I recently copied 2TB from one hard drive to another on the same computer and it took half a day. Trying to rsync that amount of data over the internet would take far longer than FedEx-ing a hard drive. Even locally, it can be faster to copy data to a thumb drive, move it to the other machine, and copy it back than to send it over the network.
- digi_owl 10y agoEven Amazon recognize this... https://aws.amazon.com/snowball/ https://aws.amazon.com/snowball/
- lsadam0 10y agoThey specify that snowball is a petabyte level solution. OP was discussing transferring files from his laptop. Does a laptop exist that can store petabytes? No.
- yellowapple 10y agoDepends on how big your lap is, I guess.
- Kubuxu 10y agoNot really true, 1Gib/s link is able to saturate HDD speed (if we are still talking local) and as you probably want to make a clone either way you might as well do it over network. 4x1Gib/s or 10Gib/s are more and more popular and in general local network latency is lower than HDD latency (surprising, isn't it). Sending over 1Gib/s network will be for sure faster than copying it on flash drive. Even if flash drive is able to do 128MiB/s speed, you have to first write it, swap machine, read it. Via network you do the write and read at the same time.
- lutusp 10y ago> And yet there's still no sane way to move data from my laptop to my desktop without physical media. If the laptop and desktop are connected to a network, then there's no reason to use physical media, in fact the medium can only be an additional failure mode. Try this instead: $ rsync -av (source path) (destination machine name):(destination path) On your LAN, use Zeroconf (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero-configuration_networking https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero-configuration_networking) to resolve local machine names to IPs. > As long as it is easier to send the data round trip to a datacentre in Kansas and back than it is to send it within my own lan ... Yes, but the premise isn't correct, and it only adds to the list of possible failure modes.
- jlarocco 10y agoSorry to tease, but it's amusing to me that you are technically competent enough to upload files to a data center, but don't know how to do the easier task of networking two computers (presumably) in the same room. Seriously, though, if the computers are (or can be) on the same network, then there are dozens of ways to achieve this. The easiest is probably shared network directories, but there's also NFS, rsync, scp, FTP, etc. IF the machines are on different networks it can be a little more work, but still not hard.
- lsadam0 10y agoI'm curious as to why you think long distance transfer of your data is a better option than LAN? Do you not have control of your network? I transfer huge amounts of data over the LAN all the time. You're making me feel like we don't live in the same decade.
- yellowapple 10y agoAll of my desktops and laptops run Unix-like operating systems with sshd either already running or ready to run. I just need the IP address of one of the machines, and for both machines to be on the same network. With the advent of type-C USB, I expect things will become even simpler as long as at least one of the devices can expose itself as a mass-storage or MTP device.