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> These tests are repeatable by other browsers or curious users, backed by methodology documents and open source code. https://github.com/MicrosoftEdge/Browser

by m4x 9y ago

> These tests are repeatable by other browsers or curious users, backed by methodology documents and open source code. https://github.com/MicrosoftEdge/BrowserEfficiencyTest/ https://github.com/MicrosoftEdge/BrowserEfficiencyTest/ They have released their test methodology and code, so you can independently review to your hearts content. Despite obviously wanting to be the market leader, they seem to be genuinely interested in helping everybody else up their game too. It's nice to see from such a large company

eps 9y ago
> they seem to be genuinely interested in helping everybody else up their game too No, they are not. The speed of Microsoft's transformation from universally hated evil FUD masters to white and fluffy friends of everyone really boggles one's mind. Just as does the gullibility and naivete of those taking it all for face value. Microsoft may be missing Balmer as a head figure, but it is the same old corporation that doesn't give a flying fuck about anything or anyone except for its own interests, which has been made abundantly clear by their past and prsent Windows 10 shenannigans. "We hear you loud and clear, you want to have better control over telemetry, so we included a choice of vaseline flavours in Creators Update." But, yeah, let's focus on their fresh coat of marketing paint with liberal sprinkle of github repos and assume that all these surely come from some other Board of directors and CEO. Fish rots from the head. Microsoft has never been an ethical company and it still is not.
- huac 9y ago
  Helping Chrome or Firefox improve their battery life - on Windows 10 - improves the image of Windows laptops overall.
- aeleos 9y ago
  Yes, but the reason people are happy is because Microsoft is helping its own interest by doing things that people want. Which is a lot better than not doing things people want and furthering their own interests, because its usually not what people want. And it is something that people have been wanting for a long time.
- m4x 9y ago
  > it is the same old corporation that doesn't give a flying fuck about anything or anyone except for its own interests No, I don't believe it is. Their actions help themselves, their competitors and their users. That's really as good as you can hope for with a profit-driven company.
  - cr__ 9y ago
    It's marketing.
    - m4x 9y ago
      Yes, but they're marketing something which benefits users and competitors. Unlike, for example, Google's constant in-your-face marketing when you use any of their services from outside Chrome. That doesn't benefit anybody but Google (assuming it even benefits them - in my case it causes a loss of respect which means nobody sees any benefit) Companies will always engage in marketing and other profit-driven, competitive activities. Some companies manage to do so while having a positive effect on the world around them, some do not. Most long-lived companies (such as MS) will go through all the possible phases at various stages of their life. Right now, MS is being a good player. They are releasing useful products and doing so in a way that benefits more than just themselves. They haven't always been like this, and won't always be like this, but deserve credit when they are. Like all other companies.
TwoBit 9y ago
That's great, but I'll bet the data set was chosen to maximize their results. That being said, last year they did win an independent test: http://www.pcworld.com/article/3087338/browsers/which-browser-is-best-on-battery-we-test-edge-vs-chrome-vs-opera-vs-firefox.html http://www.pcworld.com/article/3087338/browsers/which-browse...

by m4x 9y ago

eps 9y ago

> they seem to be genuinely interested in helping everybody else up their game too No, they are not. The speed of Microsoft's transformation from universally hated evil FUD masters to white and fluffy friends of everyone really boggles one's mind. Just as does the gullibility and naivete of those taking it all for face value. Microsoft may be missing Balmer as a head figure, but it is the same old corporation that doesn't give a flying fuck about anything or anyone except for its own interests, which has been made abundantly clear by their past and prsent Windows 10 shenannigans. "We hear you loud and clear, you want to have better control over telemetry, so we included a choice of vaseline flavours in Creators Update." But, yeah, let's focus on their fresh coat of marketing paint with liberal sprinkle of github repos and assume that all these surely come from some other Board of directors and CEO. Fish rots from the head. Microsoft has never been an ethical company and it still is not.

huac 9y ago
Helping Chrome or Firefox improve their battery life - on Windows 10 - improves the image of Windows laptops overall.
aeleos 9y ago
Yes, but the reason people are happy is because Microsoft is helping its own interest by doing things that people want. Which is a lot better than not doing things people want and furthering their own interests, because its usually not what people want. And it is something that people have been wanting for a long time.
m4x 9y ago
> it is the same old corporation that doesn't give a flying fuck about anything or anyone except for its own interests No, I don't believe it is. Their actions help themselves, their competitors and their users. That's really as good as you can hope for with a profit-driven company.
- cr__ 9y ago
  It's marketing.
  - m4x 9y ago
    Yes, but they're marketing something which benefits users and competitors. Unlike, for example, Google's constant in-your-face marketing when you use any of their services from outside Chrome. That doesn't benefit anybody but Google (assuming it even benefits them - in my case it causes a loss of respect which means nobody sees any benefit) Companies will always engage in marketing and other profit-driven, competitive activities. Some companies manage to do so while having a positive effect on the world around them, some do not. Most long-lived companies (such as MS) will go through all the possible phases at various stages of their life. Right now, MS is being a good player. They are releasing useful products and doing so in a way that benefits more than just themselves. They haven't always been like this, and won't always be like this, but deserve credit when they are. Like all other companies.

TwoBit 9y ago

That's great, but I'll bet the data set was chosen to maximize their results. That being said, last year they did win an independent test: http://www.pcworld.com/article/3087338/browsers/which-browser-is-best-on-battery-we-test-edge-vs-chrome-vs-opera-vs-firefox.html http://www.pcworld.com/article/3087338/browsers/which-browse...