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Considering they need to answer to, try to communicate with, and rely on, a bunch of Computer execs, and moreover execs primarily interested in the project for

Considering they need to answer to, try to communicate with, and rely on, a bunch of Computer execs, and moreover execs primarily interested in the project for financial reasons... that's a list of 17 employees who are at high risk of burning out. Like Steve Zadesky before them: http://businessinsider.com/apple-steve-zadesky-quits-2016-1 http://businessinsider.com/apple-steve-zadesky-quits-2016-1 Re: the Tesla names (biased article, but fun): http://marketwatch.com/story/elon-musk-heres-why-we-call-apple-the-tesla-graveyard-2015-10-09 http://marketwatch.com/story/elon-musk-heres-why-we-call-app...

georgespencer 10y ago
> Considering they need to answer to, try to communicate with, and rely on, a bunch of Computer execs, and moreover execs primarily interested in the project for financial reasons... that's a list of 17 employees who are at high risk of burning out. The profile of Jonathan Ive in the New Yorker last year made it pretty clear that he was interested in the car because he hates his car. But tbh: car manufacturers are primarily interested in "financial reasons" for making cars. That's called being in business. It's interesting that your original premise has now been refuted: > The only problem is that Apple doesn't have sufficient drive, talent, or reputation, in the auto industry to actually make and sell a good car. No employee wants to leave Tesla to work at Apple. Apple demonstrably has talent from around the auto industry, with reputations which suggest they might be capable of building a good car, and people have left Tesla to join them. So you're now changing your argument to "well maybe they can hire people, have the reputation, have the drive, and persuade consumers that they want to buy a car from Apple, but those employees have to talk to dumb computer execs!" I must have forgotten all about Elon Musk's background in automotive manufacturing which makes him uniquely equipped to build an electric self-driving car compared to someone like Tim Cook. Honestly the arguments you're making are so absurd that they border on the infantile.
- charlesism 10y ago
  Part of me wants to rebut your points, but the tone is a bit of a bummer. Life's too short.
  - georgespencer 10y ago
    If you make facile generalisations in lieu of a nuanced argument you should expect people to react fairly badly. I didn't even get as far as the insanity of "no consumer wants to buy an Apple car".
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georgespencer 10y ago

> Considering they need to answer to, try to communicate with, and rely on, a bunch of Computer execs, and moreover execs primarily interested in the project for financial reasons... that's a list of 17 employees who are at high risk of burning out. The profile of Jonathan Ive in the New Yorker last year made it pretty clear that he was interested in the car because he hates his car. But tbh: car manufacturers are primarily interested in "financial reasons" for making cars. That's called being in business. It's interesting that your original premise has now been refuted: > The only problem is that Apple doesn't have sufficient drive, talent, or reputation, in the auto industry to actually make and sell a good car. No employee wants to leave Tesla to work at Apple. Apple demonstrably has talent from around the auto industry, with reputations which suggest they might be capable of building a good car, and people have left Tesla to join them. So you're now changing your argument to "well maybe they can hire people, have the reputation, have the drive, and persuade consumers that they want to buy a car from Apple, but those employees have to talk to dumb computer execs!" I must have forgotten all about Elon Musk's background in automotive manufacturing which makes him uniquely equipped to build an electric self-driving car compared to someone like Tim Cook. Honestly the arguments you're making are so absurd that they border on the infantile.

charlesism 10y ago
Part of me wants to rebut your points, but the tone is a bit of a bummer. Life's too short.
- georgespencer 10y ago
  If you make facile generalisations in lieu of a nuanced argument you should expect people to react fairly badly. I didn't even get as far as the insanity of "no consumer wants to buy an Apple car".
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