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If all a radiologist does is pattern matching, the market would've replaced them with techs a long time ago. If not in the US, this would've happened in at leas

by wsxcde 9y ago

If all a radiologist does is pattern matching, the market would've replaced them with techs a long time ago. If not in the US, this would've happened in at least a few other countries.

ThomPete 9y ago
What else do you think a radiologist do?
- wsxcde 9y ago
  I'm not a radiologist, so I can't answer accurately and I'm not even going to try. If you really want an answer, there's plenty of information on the web. But they're most certainly not just pattern matchers in the same way that I'm not a typist. Also what's your evidence that there's no relation between college degrees and automation? What we know for a fact is that wage growth for people without college degrees has been flat or negative for the past eight or so years, while people with college degrees have seen some wage growth. Note, this can't be explained by illegal immigration because the number of undocumented immigrants has stayed constant or declined since the beginning of the Obama-era.
  - ThomPete 9y ago
    I know a couple of radiologist so I know what they are doing and there is nothing in there that won't be possible for a AI to deal with. The reasons why it isn't being used instead of doctors are mostly political, institutional and human. First doctors will use them as assistants then they will be doing all the work. But when it comes to actually detecting the patterns which is exactly what a radiologist trains to learn computers are not only better at finding the problems they also find much subtler and thus more early stage signs. Some people in collage with collage degree have wage growth, you go ask your friend who studied english literature when they last had a pay-rise. The original claim was that collage meant more use of brain thus better job security. Thats simply wrong on both accounts.
- stonemetal 9y ago
  Well they are full medical doctors, so see, and treat patients, carry malpractice insurance so you have some one to sue when they miss your cancer. If it were just about reading the films, the tech who does the procedure would read the films. To be effective at a tech job you must know what you are looking at so that you can tell if you have successfully captured images for the doctor's report. If something looks off they may need to take further measurements and images.
- madengr 9y ago
  Perhaps guide a catheter up your artery under real-time x-ray? Isn't that what an interventional radiologist does?

by wsxcde 9y ago

If all a radiologist does is pattern matching, the market would've replaced them with techs a long time ago. If not in the US, this would've happened in at least a few other countries.

ThomPete 9y ago

What else do you think a radiologist do?

wsxcde 9y ago
I'm not a radiologist, so I can't answer accurately and I'm not even going to try. If you really want an answer, there's plenty of information on the web. But they're most certainly not just pattern matchers in the same way that I'm not a typist. Also what's your evidence that there's no relation between college degrees and automation? What we know for a fact is that wage growth for people without college degrees has been flat or negative for the past eight or so years, while people with college degrees have seen some wage growth. Note, this can't be explained by illegal immigration because the number of undocumented immigrants has stayed constant or declined since the beginning of the Obama-era.
- ThomPete 9y ago
  I know a couple of radiologist so I know what they are doing and there is nothing in there that won't be possible for a AI to deal with. The reasons why it isn't being used instead of doctors are mostly political, institutional and human. First doctors will use them as assistants then they will be doing all the work. But when it comes to actually detecting the patterns which is exactly what a radiologist trains to learn computers are not only better at finding the problems they also find much subtler and thus more early stage signs. Some people in collage with collage degree have wage growth, you go ask your friend who studied english literature when they last had a pay-rise. The original claim was that collage meant more use of brain thus better job security. Thats simply wrong on both accounts.
stonemetal 9y ago
Well they are full medical doctors, so see, and treat patients, carry malpractice insurance so you have some one to sue when they miss your cancer. If it were just about reading the films, the tech who does the procedure would read the films. To be effective at a tech job you must know what you are looking at so that you can tell if you have successfully captured images for the doctor's report. If something looks off they may need to take further measurements and images.
madengr 9y ago
Perhaps guide a catheter up your artery under real-time x-ray? Isn't that what an interventional radiologist does?