3 ms·
God it is so true. There's such an amazing cultural comparison to be made between I-70 over Vail pass (in Colorado) and I-80 over Donner pass in California. V
by rsync 10y ago
God it is so true.
There's such an amazing cultural comparison to be made between I-70 over Vail pass (in Colorado) and I-80 over Donner pass in California.
Vail pass rarely closes and is open for vehicle traffic in blizzard-like conditions - but you're on your own. You'd better be well prepared and be the competent driver of a well-maintained, capable 4WD vehicle.
And so, in a blizzard, Vail pass will be nearly empty and the occasional driver will be well-equipped for the trip.
In California, they enforce chain control on I-80 for all vehicles. This has the (amazing, stupefying) perverse outcome of allowing everyone to drive over Donner pass in a blizzard. Further, they are emboldened by the chains to drive quite poorly in conditions they have no idea of how to drive in.
The result is, during a full-blown blizzard, I was driving next to some moron in a RWD camaro trying to bob and weave through slower moving traffic. Dense traffic. Dense traffic largely made of other rear wheel drive cars operated by drivers with no snow driving experience.
California.
- dmix 10y agoThis comment gets made in every single self driving car thread. These companies are full of the smartest engineers in the world. They know conditions are different outside of California. But that doesn't mean they shouldn't be focused on California right now.
- dmode 10y agoThe reason they have to enforce chain control over Donner pass is because most Californians live in warmer climates and as such do not have snow tires. Very different to an average Colorado resident who swaps to snow tires during winter. What's the other option ? Just leave it open fully knowing that Bay Area drivers will be driving RWD, summer tires in deep snow ?