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Please read what I actually wrote instead of just knee-jerk reacting to your own prejudice. I said MOST people should pay MOST of the bill. Do you really think

Please read what I actually wrote instead of just knee-jerk reacting to your own prejudice. I said MOST people should pay MOST of the bill. Do you really think I am talking about those with least amount of money.

jacquesm 10y ago
You wrote: > most people pay most of the cost for normal healthcare costs like going to the doctor for a checkup, most of the cost for one of things like a broken leg Most people are poor. Wealthy people are the exception and most people would not be able to pay for even the simplest procedures. They typically can't pay for a new washing machine if their current one breaks down.
- ThomPete 10y ago
  Most people in the west aren't poor just like most people aren't wealthy. Most people are in the middle. There is a large number of people who can't afford to buy a washing machine but it's not most people.
  - dragonwriter 10y ago
    > Most people in the west aren't poor just like most people aren't wealthy. Most people are in the middle. Wrong, income distribution isn't normal, it's bottom-heavy, and most people are well below the mean.
    - pdkl95 10y ago
      https://www.ssa.gov/cgi-bin/netcomp.cgi?year=2015 https://www.ssa.gov/cgi-bin/netcomp.cgi?year=2015 Exactly. In 2015, most (50.08666%) wage earners earned less that $30,000/year. While it isn't a majority, the fact that 3-in-10 (29.72726%) earn less than $15,000/year is a travesty.
  - barrkel 10y ago
    Most people are in the middle Of the income or wealth distribution - not a hope, it's Pareto all the way. You've got a really warped view of the world there.
- bradknowles 10y ago
  This is why I liked the health care system in Belgium, where my wife and I lived for almost eight years. In Belgium, you are charged based on your income, and they don't ask you how much you can pay when you get admitted. As US ex-pats, we made enough money that we were in the top payment bracket. Yet, for a significant surgery that kept my wife in the hospital in a private room for two weeks, we still paid less for the whole surgery plus hospital room WITHOUT insurance, than we would have paid in the US but with insurance. That kind of social medicine does actually work, and work pretty well.
  - jacquesm 10y ago
    Belgium is pretty fair. NL requires you to pay between 100 and 150 euros per month or so (kids are free) and that covers everything, the rest is paid from the tax base so you already pay the income dependent part. The only bit that's nasty about it is the deductible, they really screw the poor people on that because of course only the cheap plans have high deductibles so those that can afford the least will end up with the highest costs when something does go wrong.

jacquesm 10y ago

You wrote: > most people pay most of the cost for normal healthcare costs like going to the doctor for a checkup, most of the cost for one of things like a broken leg Most people are poor. Wealthy people are the exception and most people would not be able to pay for even the simplest procedures. They typically can't pay for a new washing machine if their current one breaks down.

ThomPete 10y ago
Most people in the west aren't poor just like most people aren't wealthy. Most people are in the middle. There is a large number of people who can't afford to buy a washing machine but it's not most people.
- dragonwriter 10y ago
  > Most people in the west aren't poor just like most people aren't wealthy. Most people are in the middle. Wrong, income distribution isn't normal, it's bottom-heavy, and most people are well below the mean.
  - pdkl95 10y ago
    https://www.ssa.gov/cgi-bin/netcomp.cgi?year=2015 https://www.ssa.gov/cgi-bin/netcomp.cgi?year=2015 Exactly. In 2015, most (50.08666%) wage earners earned less that $30,000/year. While it isn't a majority, the fact that 3-in-10 (29.72726%) earn less than $15,000/year is a travesty.
- barrkel 10y ago
  Most people are in the middle Of the income or wealth distribution - not a hope, it's Pareto all the way. You've got a really warped view of the world there.
bradknowles 10y ago
This is why I liked the health care system in Belgium, where my wife and I lived for almost eight years. In Belgium, you are charged based on your income, and they don't ask you how much you can pay when you get admitted. As US ex-pats, we made enough money that we were in the top payment bracket. Yet, for a significant surgery that kept my wife in the hospital in a private room for two weeks, we still paid less for the whole surgery plus hospital room WITHOUT insurance, than we would have paid in the US but with insurance. That kind of social medicine does actually work, and work pretty well.
- jacquesm 10y ago
  Belgium is pretty fair. NL requires you to pay between 100 and 150 euros per month or so (kids are free) and that covers everything, the rest is paid from the tax base so you already pay the income dependent part. The only bit that's nasty about it is the deductible, they really screw the poor people on that because of course only the cheap plans have high deductibles so those that can afford the least will end up with the highest costs when something does go wrong.