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You're right, it isn't hard to think up situations where passengers would have to be deboarded such as weather change, another plane crashing into them etc as y

You're right, it isn't hard to think up situations where passengers would have to be deboarded such as weather change, another plane crashing into them etc as you noted. However all of those items you mentioned are noted in the United Contract of Carriage which mentions force majure including weather, and damage to the airplane, running out of fuel, strikes etc. However, none of those reasons applied to Dr. Dao, and his being boot from the plane which why he would have a very good chance of getting far more than a refund. You can also be sure, eventually United and other airlines will quietly update there contracts to allow them to legally boot a customer under any circumstances at their sole discretion.

dragontamer 10y ago
https://www.united.com/web/en-US/content/contract-of-carriage.aspx#sec21 https://www.united.com/web/en-US/content/contract-of-carriag... > 10.Passengers who are manacled or in the custody of law enforcement personnel; As far as I can see, Dr. Dao is in the custody of Law Enforcement. Its pretty damn clear from the video that Law enforcement is removing Dr. Dao from the plane. --------- Come on man, its trivial to come up with easy ways to meet a legal document. The document is written in all sorts of ways to remove passengers and keep United in the right.
- Terretta 10y ago
  That's referring to prisoner transport.
  - dragontamer 10y ago
    The definition of "Police Custody" is very specific. It is any situation where you are not free to leave. (I admit the details changes from state to state however). IE: You are typically under (limited) Police Custody during a Breathalyzer test. Although the details of this custody vary from state to state, the fact of the matter is you are NOT free to leave and your rights are restricted. In any case, Dr. Dao is obviously under Police Custody. Now the officer was probably wrong for putting the man under custody, but its clear that the Officer is dragging the man out of the Plane, and that Dr. Dao is not allowed to freely go about his business. The Officer probably didn't follow his proper duties at 3:30am (and his suspension from the Police Force indicates that something wrong happened from a Police perspective). But regardless, Dr. Dao is CLEARLY under Police Custody at the time. At least, now that we know the man dragging Dr. Dao out of the plane was an officer. Normally, you're supposed to show your badge and give Miranda Rights (proper procedures and everything). But needless to say, there were a lot of mistakes made at that time. IMO, most of them seem to be Police-level mistakes however and not necessarily United Airline's problem. (Despite what the court of Public Opinion believes...)
    - ohyes 10y ago
      He wasn't in police custody when they first 'deboarded' him from the plane.
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dragontamer 10y ago

https://www.united.com/web/en-US/content/contract-of-carriage.aspx#sec21 https://www.united.com/web/en-US/content/contract-of-carriag... > 10.Passengers who are manacled or in the custody of law enforcement personnel; As far as I can see, Dr. Dao is in the custody of Law Enforcement. Its pretty damn clear from the video that Law enforcement is removing Dr. Dao from the plane. --------- Come on man, its trivial to come up with easy ways to meet a legal document. The document is written in all sorts of ways to remove passengers and keep United in the right.

Terretta 10y ago
That's referring to prisoner transport.
- dragontamer 10y ago
  The definition of "Police Custody" is very specific. It is any situation where you are not free to leave. (I admit the details changes from state to state however). IE: You are typically under (limited) Police Custody during a Breathalyzer test. Although the details of this custody vary from state to state, the fact of the matter is you are NOT free to leave and your rights are restricted. In any case, Dr. Dao is obviously under Police Custody. Now the officer was probably wrong for putting the man under custody, but its clear that the Officer is dragging the man out of the Plane, and that Dr. Dao is not allowed to freely go about his business. The Officer probably didn't follow his proper duties at 3:30am (and his suspension from the Police Force indicates that something wrong happened from a Police perspective). But regardless, Dr. Dao is CLEARLY under Police Custody at the time. At least, now that we know the man dragging Dr. Dao out of the plane was an officer. Normally, you're supposed to show your badge and give Miranda Rights (proper procedures and everything). But needless to say, there were a lot of mistakes made at that time. IMO, most of them seem to be Police-level mistakes however and not necessarily United Airline's problem. (Despite what the court of Public Opinion believes...)
  - ohyes 10y ago
    He wasn't in police custody when they first 'deboarded' him from the plane.
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