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Good luck courting new tech talent when existing tech talent gets hung out to dry at the first hint of pressure. See Kim Dotcom's troubles for reference.

nebabyte 9y ago
Oh not 'actual' techies that envision the world embracing a new information era, we just want the code monkeys that know enough to pursue the profit motive for us and have internalized the idea that such a role is so in-demand that we can thus get them to do cheaply come now
RantyDave 9y ago
Oh, really. Kim Dotcom has managed to avoid extradition for five years, that's hardly being hung out to dry.
EdwardDiego 9y ago
The NZ government bending over for the US government was not exactly very popular with the locals. A different government may have had a stronger spine. You also forgot the part where Kim Dotcom is a convicted fraudster, who was making money through deliberate violation of copyright, is all tech talent like him? Oh, and then there was the time he tried to get involved in NZ politics. That was not superpopular.
- vorg 9y ago
  > a convicted fraudster, who was making money through deliberate violation of copyright Violating copyright is not a crime in NZ, neither is it when former felons do it.
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- lacampbell 9y ago
  The NZ government bending over for the US government was not exactly very popular with the locals. The NZ government still refuses to let US warships that may be nuclear powered into our ports, and thus has no free trade deal with the worlds largest economy. Instead we have a free trade deal with Red China, which is now colonising us.
  - rfw 9y ago
    The US announced their participation in the TPP in 2009, a free trade agreement encompassing trade between the US and New Zealand. The Obama administration had been very gung-ho about its ratification in the US, so I don't think the question of nuclear powered warships comes up much anymore. I don't think you can squarely point to the New Zealand–China FTA for whichever interpretation of colonization you'd like – immigration laws were mostly unchanged by the FTA with the exception of short term work visas, and property purchases by Chinese investors is not an exclusively "countries who have negotiated free trade agreements with China" phenomenon (see Vancouver in Canada, Seattle in the US).

nebabyte 9y ago

Oh not 'actual' techies that envision the world embracing a new information era, we just want the code monkeys that know enough to pursue the profit motive for us and have internalized the idea that such a role is so in-demand that we can thus get them to do cheaply come now

RantyDave 9y ago

Oh, really. Kim Dotcom has managed to avoid extradition for five years, that's hardly being hung out to dry.

EdwardDiego 9y ago

The NZ government bending over for the US government was not exactly very popular with the locals. A different government may have had a stronger spine. You also forgot the part where Kim Dotcom is a convicted fraudster, who was making money through deliberate violation of copyright, is all tech talent like him? Oh, and then there was the time he tried to get involved in NZ politics. That was not superpopular.

vorg 9y ago
> a convicted fraudster, who was making money through deliberate violation of copyright Violating copyright is not a crime in NZ, neither is it when former felons do it.
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lacampbell 9y ago
The NZ government bending over for the US government was not exactly very popular with the locals. The NZ government still refuses to let US warships that may be nuclear powered into our ports, and thus has no free trade deal with the worlds largest economy. Instead we have a free trade deal with Red China, which is now colonising us.
- rfw 9y ago
  The US announced their participation in the TPP in 2009, a free trade agreement encompassing trade between the US and New Zealand. The Obama administration had been very gung-ho about its ratification in the US, so I don't think the question of nuclear powered warships comes up much anymore. I don't think you can squarely point to the New Zealand–China FTA for whichever interpretation of colonization you'd like – immigration laws were mostly unchanged by the FTA with the exception of short term work visas, and property purchases by Chinese investors is not an exclusively "countries who have negotiated free trade agreements with China" phenomenon (see Vancouver in Canada, Seattle in the US).