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Coauthor of the paper here. No --- this is not one of the three techniques that we implemented. It was a hypothetical suggestion for future work. Unfortunate th

Coauthor of the paper here. No --- this is not one of the three techniques that we implemented. It was a hypothetical suggestion for future work. Unfortunate that the article didn't make that clear. Here is the paper http://randomwalker.info/publications/ad-blocking-framework-techniques.pdf http://randomwalker.info/publications/ad-blocking-framework-... Here is our blog post about it: https://freedom-to-tinker.com/2017/04/14/the-future-of-ad-blocking/ https://freedom-to-tinker.com/2017/04/14/the-future-of-ad-bl...

ktta 9y ago
Looks like you've accidentally repasted the paper URL for the blog post
- randomwalker 9y ago
  Oops! Thanks, fixed.
wernercd 9y ago
Just a throw out question: One of the biggest issues (IMO) is the security threat... if there is a second copy that "we" don't see, doesn't that mean that the second copy can do "bad things" still? Case in Point: Forbes requests you disable ad-blocker... then serves pop-under malware: http://www.networkworld.com/article/3021113/security/forbes-malware-ad-blocker-advertisements.html http://www.networkworld.com/article/3021113/security/forbes-... I could stomach ads - just like I stomached commercials on TV shows... you get used to them and they become white noise... if the ads were unobtrusive and non-invasive (IE: Google Search Results)... it's full screen, pop-up/under, audio, video, etc. Then throw on top of that malware... What's to stop the malware from biting on that second copy?
- unholythree 9y ago
  This is what matters most to me. My dislike of ads are out of fear of malicious code first, tracking second, and wasting my bandwidth third. The simple gif banner ads of yore were tolerable enough.
- bigbugbag 9y ago
  Neuromarketing proved that they do not become white noise, you just stop consciously noticing them and how they affect you[1]. But even if you somehow developed some kind of immunity, you'd still be affected by ads because advertising costs are factored in product prices, when you buy something even if you never seen any of the ads for this product, you're still paying for them. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuromarketing#Study_examples https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuromarketing#Study_examples
cprayingmantis 9y ago
Here's what probably amounts to a dumb question why couldn't we just have an AI act like a real person and click on some of the ads that it deemed 'safe' and in a separate sandbox type browser instance? This would reduce the negative effects of adblockers on content publishers.

ktta 9y ago

Looks like you've accidentally repasted the paper URL for the blog post

randomwalker 9y ago
Oops! Thanks, fixed.

wernercd 9y ago

Just a throw out question: One of the biggest issues (IMO) is the security threat... if there is a second copy that "we" don't see, doesn't that mean that the second copy can do "bad things" still? Case in Point: Forbes requests you disable ad-blocker... then serves pop-under malware: http://www.networkworld.com/article/3021113/security/forbes-malware-ad-blocker-advertisements.html http://www.networkworld.com/article/3021113/security/forbes-... I could stomach ads - just like I stomached commercials on TV shows... you get used to them and they become white noise... if the ads were unobtrusive and non-invasive (IE: Google Search Results)... it's full screen, pop-up/under, audio, video, etc. Then throw on top of that malware... What's to stop the malware from biting on that second copy?

unholythree 9y ago
This is what matters most to me. My dislike of ads are out of fear of malicious code first, tracking second, and wasting my bandwidth third. The simple gif banner ads of yore were tolerable enough.
bigbugbag 9y ago
Neuromarketing proved that they do not become white noise, you just stop consciously noticing them and how they affect you[1]. But even if you somehow developed some kind of immunity, you'd still be affected by ads because advertising costs are factored in product prices, when you buy something even if you never seen any of the ads for this product, you're still paying for them. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuromarketing#Study_examples https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuromarketing#Study_examples

cprayingmantis 9y ago

Here's what probably amounts to a dumb question why couldn't we just have an AI act like a real person and click on some of the ads that it deemed 'safe' and in a separate sandbox type browser instance? This would reduce the negative effects of adblockers on content publishers.