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Well, then, looks like I have to pay attention to this again and update my understanding. At the same time, this sounds like... regulation! Some form of restr

Well, then, looks like I have to pay attention to this again and update my understanding. At the same time, this sounds like... regulation! Some form of restriction on how the terms may be interpreted and executed. I am not entirely happy with the situation. I want to know that when I purchase a ticket to go somewhere, I'm going -- absent equipment failure or some act of God. (Or, the occasional drunken pilot...) But, it is what it is. And I get a bit tired of all the outcry when much of such is basically coming from the people who made it this way -- through the governments they've voted for, or not voted for, as the case may be.

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pasbesoin 10y ago
I've now seen this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14116603 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14116603 https://www.yahoo.com/news/why-united-legally-wrong-deplane-134223391.html https://www.yahoo.com/news/why-united-legally-wrong-deplane-... which provides some more context. I still find it crappy that airlines can bump you if/when someone essentially outbids you at the last moment (prior to boarding) -- after you've already made all your plans and have gotten yourself to the airport. But, as with many things in this society, money takes precedence over all else.
kelnos 10y ago
> And I get a bit tired of all the outcry when much of such is basically coming from the people who made it this way -- through the governments they've voted for, or not voted for, as the case may be. Not even so much that: we, as passengers, are in part responsible as well, due to the vast majority of us picking flights through only one metric: ticket price. Economy passengers are not willing to pay higher ticket prices for better service, and yet still complain about baggage, food, and entertainment fees, and fewer route choices and consolidation. Economy fares have been a race to the bottom for decades now. You get what you pay for. If you want to pay less, you'll get less. That doesn't excuse United breaking their contract, and it doesn't excuse the excessive use of force, but it does put it in context.

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pasbesoin 10y ago

I've now seen this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14116603 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14116603 https://www.yahoo.com/news/why-united-legally-wrong-deplane-134223391.html https://www.yahoo.com/news/why-united-legally-wrong-deplane-... which provides some more context. I still find it crappy that airlines can bump you if/when someone essentially outbids you at the last moment (prior to boarding) -- after you've already made all your plans and have gotten yourself to the airport. But, as with many things in this society, money takes precedence over all else.

kelnos 10y ago

> And I get a bit tired of all the outcry when much of such is basically coming from the people who made it this way -- through the governments they've voted for, or not voted for, as the case may be. Not even so much that: we, as passengers, are in part responsible as well, due to the vast majority of us picking flights through only one metric: ticket price. Economy passengers are not willing to pay higher ticket prices for better service, and yet still complain about baggage, food, and entertainment fees, and fewer route choices and consolidation. Economy fares have been a race to the bottom for decades now. You get what you pay for. If you want to pay less, you'll get less. That doesn't excuse United breaking their contract, and it doesn't excuse the excessive use of force, but it does put it in context.