Yes. Agreed, therefore my "to me that means" and "in western nations". And this is something that --in a democracy-- we can vote on: higher or lower capitalist-

Yes. Agreed, therefore my "to me that means" and "in western nations". And this is something that --in a democracy-- we can vote on: higher or lower capitalist-threshold? :) While the exact threshold is up for debate, I think it is an otherwise easy to distinguish class difference.