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It's only iphone 4 to iphone 4 so it's basically useless most of the time.
by NZ_Matt 16y ago
It's only iphone 4 to iphone 4 so it's basically useless most of the time.
- tel 16y agoI'd say that iPhone users have many friends who are also iPhone users, anecdotally.
- tvon 16y agoJobs: "we’re going to make FaceTime an open industry standard." Should be interesting.
- gokhan 16y agoThey have to. It will be dead otherwise, based on the current prerequisites (iOS4 to iOS4, only on wifi)
- FluidDjango 16y agoI seem to recall he said the "only on wifi" was a temporary thing - while "we work with cell carriers" (I noted the plural: carrierS).
- jodrellblank 16y agoHello from outside America; we don't have AT&T.
- tsally 16y agoHello from inside America; you don't really want AT&T.
- tibbon 16y agoI have to wonder how long it will take to work out with AT&T. Skype and tethering took a year for AT&T to get around to.
- jokermatt999 16y agoThat was easily the most interesting part of the keynote to me (Android user). I already assumed that video calling from Apple would push something similar forward in the rest of the phone community, but the fact that they're going to make it an open standard is phenomenal. Of course, we'll see what they mean by "open standard" after the recent debacle with Safari's "HTML5 Demo", but I'd like to remain optimistic. Webkit was a nice gift, and hopefully this will be something similar.
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- antidaily 16y agolike the MiniDisplayPort.
- earcar 16y agoIt's actually based on already existing open standards, see http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2010/06/apple-wwdc-2010-384-rm-eng.jpg http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2010/06/apple-...
- tvon 16y agoTrue, but being based on open standards doesn't necessarily mean that the end result won't have anything proprietary in it. Jobs saying they are going to make FaceTime an open standard seems to imply that they are adding something of their own to the mix.
- masklinn 16y agoThere was a slide pointing out that it was based on existing technologies already.
- kilps 16y agoWhat have all the other video-calling capable phones been using thus far? Is there no existing standard?
- turtle4 16y agoWorse that that, you have to be calling someone else with an iPhone, and you -both- have to be using wifi. Don't get me wrong, it is a step up from what they used to have available, but that is kind of a tall order for general consumption.
- stcredzero 16y agoStill more convenient than chat on net-books/laptops. Calling on a phone is very convenient and if you can, add video.
- jonknee 16y agoExcept it's not hands free, laptops have the camera in a pretty good position without any additional effort.
- stcredzero 16y agoBut to be in that situation, you've already committed to sitting.
- jonknee 16y agoSo yes, it will be perfect when I'm standing up near my WiFi hotspot and want to video chat with someone I know who has the same brand new phone as I do and is also standing up near their WiFi hotspot. I'm quite surprised that it's not at least compatible with the video calls in iChat. 3G will definitely happen, but they have a built-in base of millions of users on iChat that could have helped kick things off.
- stcredzero 16y ago...or the cafe, or the coworking space, or at your friend's house. Since the call comes first, it's a fortuitous enhancement you sometimes add to an ordinary call. Your way, you are either already sitting and working, or you had to plan ahead. Big diffence.
- DannoHung 16y agoFor now. Looks like they want to push it as a video chat standard, so, it's gonna be on any Android phones with video camera capacities, front facing or not.