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IPhone 4 is official
- mrscotchboy 16y agoI'm upgrading as soon as I can...if for nothing else but HD video!
- smokey_the_bear 16y agoAnyone know when it's coming?
- alex1 16y agoJune 24. Pre-orders starting June 15.
- awolf 16y agoI'm impressed with 24% thinner. After holding an iPod touch for the first time I always wished my iPhone was less bulky.
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- smackfu 16y agoYes, people don't really appreciate this. With Canon Powershot cameras, they went thicker when they added image-stabilization a few years ago, and that quarter inch or whatnot really made a huge difference in how big it felt and how pocketable it was.
- blhack 16y agoTo be honest, I would much rather see a thicker phone with a longer battery. My current iPhone (the 3g) feels unnecessarily thin to me. What I would really like to see would be the option for a larger battery.
- mattmillr 16y agoThe Mophie Juice Pack does two things for my 3G: (1) Makes it thicker (2) Gives it longer battery life. Problem solved ;)
- ROFISH 16y agoHuh, no WebM support.
- euroclydon 16y agoApple's next-gen iPhone also comes equipped with Apple's speedy A4 chip and a gyroscope, which when coupled with the accelerometer, provides 6-axis motion sensing. Six Axis? OK, I picked up my mouse, and demonstrated to myself, rotating it about each of the three(X,Y,Z) Cartesian axis -- no problem. So then I tried to figure out the other three: All I can guess is that they are movement along those prior mentioned axes. Is this correct?
- rbanffy 16y agoIs there any good, sound, technical reason why iOS4 won't run on 1st-gen hardware (iPod and iPhones)? I understand some hardware may be missing (bluetooth on 1st-gen iPods and 3G on 1st-gen iPhones) but the computer that runs the show is pretty much the same as the 2nd-gen ones.
- heed 16y agoThe technical reason is they want you to upgrade.
- cpr 16y agoI think that's a bit cynical. Apple's all about the user experience, and I think they have rightly judged that enough of the new features won't perform adequately to be a satisfying user experience. You can quibble about the call, but how many other phone OS vendors would support 2-year-old phones for a free upgrade? How many other phone OSes even do upgrades on old phones? (Android does, a little, but I think most of the Android vendors aren't supporting, e.g., Froyo, on their older 1.5 handsets.)
- blhack 16y ago>Apple's all about the user experience If this was true, you'd see a lot fewer articles about them on HN, TC, etc.
- rbanffy 16y ago> Apple's all about the user experience, and I think they have rightly judged that enough of the new features won't perform adequately to be a satisfying user experience. What feature a 1st-gen iPod lacks that makes it satisfactory on a second-generation unit? IIRC, the only change is the addition of Bluetooth, processor and memory being the same.
- zacharypinter 16y agoPresumably it's lower amount of memory wouldn't work well with features like multitasking.
- dlsspy 16y agoThat's insanely high res. How many pixels would my 15" MBP have at that DPI?
- paul9290 16y agoAnyone know when iPhone 4.0 will be available to download. As a bootstrapped developer I ran OS 4.0 through the first 3 betas, but as noted by apple do so at your own risk. I had some issues with beta 3 so Ive been waiting for an official version, before upgrading to 4.0 again. I just checked developer page and it still says the latest beta 4 well is in still in beta. I guess they release the official version around same time phone comes out?
- cpr 16y agoSteve said (in the keynote) that the Golden Master download should be available today.
- jodrellblank 16y agoThey said "master candidate done today, so out soon". Also that the phone is available on the 24th, so iOS needs to be finished enough before that to be built in and shipped off on time. But I'm guessing they wont allow us to have iOS 4 in wide circulation before iPhone 4 itself is out, so 24th or after is my guess.
- rimantas 16y agoWasn't it mentioned in keynote? Where do I got June 21st date then…
- jgerman 16y agoIt depends on if you have to switch to the tiered plan on upgrade. It's a foolish purchase if you do, or if this is your first iPhone. 2Gb is nothing, particularly when they're pushing ads at you, and don't forget the game network is coming. I'm installing an in dash GPS receive this week that will let me stream Pandora in my car, that's next to useless without unlimited. Hell a poorly written app could blow through wads of data while you're at the doctor's office and you wouldn't know until too late. The iPhone (and realistically all phones of this nature) need unlimited plans. AT&T is really screwing the customer here, and Apple as well. At the very least they should have offered a $50 a month unlimited (or practically unlimited) plan. They really need to open up the market and get some competition going.
- neilc 16y agoIt depends on if you have to switch to the tiered plan on upgrade. ATT has been pretty clear that you don't (i.e. you can upgrade and retain the unlimited data plan).
- MikeCapone 16y agoTo me the IPS 300+ DPI screen is the best part. I can't wait until the iPad gets this kind of DPI.
- sev 16y agoI'm very impressed. Anyone know if only the rear camera is 5 MP/720p or are both cameras? If not, what are the specs for the one in the front?
- swilliams 16y ago"VGA-quality photos and video at up to 30 frames per second with the front camera" http://www.apple.com/iphone/specs.html http://www.apple.com/iphone/specs.html VGA is 640x480, correct?
- phreeza 16y agoThe front camera is the most important innovation to me. I think this will really bring video calling to the masses, for the first time. Many people have been doing that with laptops, but the increased mobility will make a huge difference. (edit: also, I was mystefied why the iPad doesn't have one. Surely the first update will?!)
- rbanffy 16y agoIndeed. I think this is the major game-changing feature of the phone. I also like the gyroscope.