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Just in case FreeNAS people are lurking around here, all the talk about jails support does not speak to me in the slightest. Utilizing jails has been one of my

by awinder 10y ago

Just in case FreeNAS people are lurking around here, all the talk about jails support does not speak to me in the slightest. Utilizing jails has been one of my #1 pain points with FreeNAS. The quality of user-supplied jails was so poor in my experience, I got out of the practice of using pre-build jails and just had to start wiring up my own. The docker switcharoo in Corral had me excited and I was able to spin up my existing FreeNAS 9.x workflows very easily, but if you're going back to jails thinking that it'll solve problems, let me be at least 1 person to say -- the jails infrastructure has been abysmal for my experience, and I give a hearty thumbs-down to doubling-down on it.

quasse 10y ago
I was really looking forward to having Docker available. I run 5 or 6 jails at home and they have been the absolute biggest pain point for me. At some point, the jail booter image was shipped with a broken version of pkg that didn't start misbehaving until later, and I haven't found any solution but to manually recreate each of my jails. Docker would be such a breath of fresh air at this point.
- rsync 10y ago
  "I was really looking forward to having Docker available. I run 5 or 6 jails at home and they have been the absolute biggest pain point for me." Can you elaborate a bit ? I have done a bit of work with FreeBSD jails and have some sense of their pros and cons ... were you using pre-built jail userlands that you got from some third party (ie., you did not build or replicate yourself) ? Genuinely curious ...
- rsync 10y ago
  "I was really looking forward to having Docker available. I run 5 or 6 jails at home and they have been the absolute biggest pain point for me." Can you elaborate a bit ? I have done a bit of work with FreeBSD jails and have some sense of their pros and cons ... were you using pre-built jail userlands that you got from some third party (ie., you did not build or replicate yourself) ? Genuinely curious ...
janwh 10y ago
I strongly disagree. Jails have been fine for … forever on FreeBSD. Looking at tools like ezjails etc., I'd even consider them truly superior to containerizing all the things. The problem probably lies in the toolset that shipped with FreeNAS up to this point. So doubling-down on it might actually make a difference and make people utilize one of (Free)BSDs biggest strengths properly in FreeNAS.

by awinder 10y ago

quasse 10y ago

I was really looking forward to having Docker available. I run 5 or 6 jails at home and they have been the absolute biggest pain point for me. At some point, the jail booter image was shipped with a broken version of pkg that didn't start misbehaving until later, and I haven't found any solution but to manually recreate each of my jails. Docker would be such a breath of fresh air at this point.

rsync 10y ago
"I was really looking forward to having Docker available. I run 5 or 6 jails at home and they have been the absolute biggest pain point for me." Can you elaborate a bit ? I have done a bit of work with FreeBSD jails and have some sense of their pros and cons ... were you using pre-built jail userlands that you got from some third party (ie., you did not build or replicate yourself) ? Genuinely curious ...
rsync 10y ago
"I was really looking forward to having Docker available. I run 5 or 6 jails at home and they have been the absolute biggest pain point for me." Can you elaborate a bit ? I have done a bit of work with FreeBSD jails and have some sense of their pros and cons ... were you using pre-built jail userlands that you got from some third party (ie., you did not build or replicate yourself) ? Genuinely curious ...

janwh 10y ago

I strongly disagree. Jails have been fine for … forever on FreeBSD. Looking at tools like ezjails etc., I'd even consider them truly superior to containerizing all the things. The problem probably lies in the toolset that shipped with FreeNAS up to this point. So doubling-down on it might actually make a difference and make people utilize one of (Free)BSDs biggest strengths properly in FreeNAS.