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Do you REALLY want apple to have a recording of all your health data though ? I got a bad feeling about letting the GAFAs getting even more invasive.

karkisuni 10y ago
heath data doesn't leave the phone. it's a pain (at least in the past) to even get it to transfer to a new phone.
- sametmax 10y ago
  Yes and PRISM was a myth until we proved it was not. You can't trust corporations to do the right things here. They will be tempted. Eventually one will give in. Not only can they steal it in ways you won't notice, but they don't even need to. They can just do an update in the CLUA that people must accept or loose their 3 years of accumulated data, giving access to "anonimized health data". The only way to be sure it's almost safe is to either: - design en open source system so that you know it does no evil and you can control it - avoid putting the data in the system in the first place
  - selectodude 10y ago
    Well you're more than welcome not to use it if you're that concerned about it.
monkmartinez 10y ago
I suspect if you are a diabetic that actually cares about his/her blood sugar, you wouldn't give two hoots as to the company that made it easier to monitor. You would simply want the device.
- sametmax 10y ago
  Until insurances use the data to make your life miserable. Until companies buy black market database and your resume is rejected everywhere and you can't get a loan. It's always the same with democracy. You have to make those decisions before something actually happens. After it's too late.
  - wishinghand 10y ago
    I work at companies that pay 100% of my insurance, with no pre-existing clause BS. So do all of my job prospects.
- adamfarmer 10y ago
  monkmartinez, I completely agree. Are you familiar with the Helo? The Helo LX is a device already ahead of Apple's Engineers. You can find the Helo LX at http://Farmer.Helo.Life http://Farmer.Helo.Life look into who Antonio De Rosa is. In short, he is our chief designer and he was on that Apple iWatch team in 2010. We are ahead of Apple on this one. Those sensors exist today and guess who has them?! But this is great, Apple has a much bigger marketing budget than we do.
wishinghand 10y ago
I don't care at all, even if they notice I have high blood sugars and sell my info to some drug company market to me a drug claiming to lower them. The added benefit of tracking integrated in my watch trumps that. Here's the thing about Type 1 diabetics- we'll take what we can get. No one caters to us because we're such a small subset of diabetics we may as well be a rounding error. Every treatment/study/drug you see in the media is aimed at Type 2 diabetics. Glucose meters are about the only thing we both benefit from.
- richie5um 10y ago
  In the U.K. it is very difficult to get a CGM - unless you are young or manage your Type1 very badly. Even with doing finger prick blood tests 5 times a day, for years, I feel mostly clueless. And rely heavily on how I feel. Given how much time this condition (?) costs healthcare, this seems a poor way to manage it. I'm desperate to learn more about my body's glucose trends. A watch that could do that would be awesome.

karkisuni 10y ago

heath data doesn't leave the phone. it's a pain (at least in the past) to even get it to transfer to a new phone.

sametmax 10y ago
Yes and PRISM was a myth until we proved it was not. You can't trust corporations to do the right things here. They will be tempted. Eventually one will give in. Not only can they steal it in ways you won't notice, but they don't even need to. They can just do an update in the CLUA that people must accept or loose their 3 years of accumulated data, giving access to "anonimized health data". The only way to be sure it's almost safe is to either: - design en open source system so that you know it does no evil and you can control it - avoid putting the data in the system in the first place
- selectodude 10y ago
  Well you're more than welcome not to use it if you're that concerned about it.

monkmartinez 10y ago

I suspect if you are a diabetic that actually cares about his/her blood sugar, you wouldn't give two hoots as to the company that made it easier to monitor. You would simply want the device.

sametmax 10y ago
Until insurances use the data to make your life miserable. Until companies buy black market database and your resume is rejected everywhere and you can't get a loan. It's always the same with democracy. You have to make those decisions before something actually happens. After it's too late.
- wishinghand 10y ago
  I work at companies that pay 100% of my insurance, with no pre-existing clause BS. So do all of my job prospects.
adamfarmer 10y ago
monkmartinez, I completely agree. Are you familiar with the Helo? The Helo LX is a device already ahead of Apple's Engineers. You can find the Helo LX at http://Farmer.Helo.Life http://Farmer.Helo.Life look into who Antonio De Rosa is. In short, he is our chief designer and he was on that Apple iWatch team in 2010. We are ahead of Apple on this one. Those sensors exist today and guess who has them?! But this is great, Apple has a much bigger marketing budget than we do.

wishinghand 10y ago

I don't care at all, even if they notice I have high blood sugars and sell my info to some drug company market to me a drug claiming to lower them. The added benefit of tracking integrated in my watch trumps that. Here's the thing about Type 1 diabetics- we'll take what we can get. No one caters to us because we're such a small subset of diabetics we may as well be a rounding error. Every treatment/study/drug you see in the media is aimed at Type 2 diabetics. Glucose meters are about the only thing we both benefit from.

richie5um 10y ago
In the U.K. it is very difficult to get a CGM - unless you are young or manage your Type1 very badly. Even with doing finger prick blood tests 5 times a day, for years, I feel mostly clueless. And rely heavily on how I feel. Given how much time this condition (?) costs healthcare, this seems a poor way to manage it. I'm desperate to learn more about my body's glucose trends. A watch that could do that would be awesome.