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Debian has a lot of rough edges. I still wouldn't recommend it for a naif. You have to understand the Debian philosophy to not get angry at how Debian's default
by vacri 10y ago
Debian has a lot of rough edges. I still wouldn't recommend it for a naif. You have to understand the Debian philosophy to not get angry at how Debian's default install simply doesn't work (still!) with most network cards. Debian has had a lot of user-friendly polish in the last half-decade, but was pretty gnarly before then.
I came over to the linux side around 2007[1], and Debian was painful with network drivers and xorg configs, whereas ubuntu just gave you the binary blobs (like most distros) and worked on making X config less painful. Debian at the time was also exceptionally slow to bring in software, and that's improved in recent years. The user-friendly reputation of Ubuntu came well before 2010 when Unity came out - basically in its early days, Ubuntu gave you a distro with APT (= bye-bye, dependency hell) and also had friendly UX as its primary goal. Debian was about user-friendliness in terms of philosophy, not in terms of UX.
I now use Debian on my workstation, in the cloud, and on my home laptop. But I would never recommend it to anyone without making them aware of the Debian philosophy first, and it's a philosophy you have to buy into at least a little bit. All the other devs in my workplace are either on macs or ubuntu/unity.
[1] My very first linux experience was running ShowEQ, and dependency hell made me swear off linux for almost a decade... :)
- type0 10y agoWell put, in my mind Ubuntu will always be a great gateway drug to Debian. Ubuntu community did a fantastic job to popularize deb ecosystem even though it is often criticized for not contributing enough upstream. I can't imagine anyone using Debian as their first Linux distro, Ubuntu (and it's derivatives) on the other hand is the Linux distro. Debian is arguably more stable and technically might be better implemented but Ubuntu has won over the average user because of ease of use and helpful communities around it.
- antod 10y ago> Ubuntu community did a fantastic job to popularize deb ecosystem This can't be emphasised enough. I was a Debian user before Ubuntu launched, and it really seemed like Debian was going to only ever remain an unsupported (by anyone else) niche in the face of Redhat.