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I'm very sorry for your loss. But as a cancer researcher, I can fairly confidently say that glyphosate had nothing to do with your father's death. There just

I'm very sorry for your loss. But as a cancer researcher, I can fairly confidently say that glyphosate had nothing to do with your father's death. There just isn't any evidence showing that it has direct mutagenic activity or even other indirect biological influences on the probability of developing cancer. I've also lost several fit, active nonsmoking friends and family to cancer. Our cells copy themselves imperfectly, and sometimes our inborn regulatory mechanisms go awry. There's not always a "cause", beyond the fact that our bodies aren't built to a perfect spec. There's a massive amount of work going on these days to develop entirely new classes of treatments, so I hope the clinical situation in a few decades will be brighter by far. Again, sorry for your loss.

alphonsegaston 10y ago
It was my understanding that while the IARC classification of glyphosate as a carcinogen has been disputed, exposure has been shown to increase the risk of melanoma, especially in occupational contexts: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/27058477/?i=15&from=glyphosate%20cancer https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/27058477/?i=15&from=gl...
- alevskaya 10y ago
  That's a terrible paper. This is a small epidemiological study where they're looking both at 1. exposure to sun and 2. occupational exposure to -any- herbicides/pesticides/fungacides/insecticides (not just glyphosate) and trying to pull out odds ratios of melanoma risk. Outdoor work definitely increases melanoma risk, but I wouldn't try to pull out much more than that from this paper!
  - alphonsegaston 10y ago
    Thanks for clarifying!
    - snowpanda 10y ago
      He didn't really clarify anything though, just gave his opinion on evidence that he said didn't exist just a comment before. You could have given any of the other studies that warn against roundup and people will always find something wrong with the study. When people make up their minds about this stuff they stop looking at it objectively.
wslh 10y ago
I invite you to visit some places in Argentina and you will surely change your mind. You can find more information about this here http://www.i-sis.org.uk/argentinasRoundupHumanTragedy.php http://www.i-sis.org.uk/argentinasRoundupHumanTragedy.php
bobbington 10y ago
This statement sounds typical of a medical researcher - you are trained to think this way. However medicine has a long and horrible history of mocking as quacks those who have the truth, and are a step ahead of the powers that be. At one point doctors thought germ theory was idiocy and mocked those who insisted on cleanliness. Just because there is no evidence that "top researchers" accept today does not mean that it won't come out in the future. For something as toxic as this, I think we are best to assume dangerous until proven safe.

alphonsegaston 10y ago

It was my understanding that while the IARC classification of glyphosate as a carcinogen has been disputed, exposure has been shown to increase the risk of melanoma, especially in occupational contexts: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/27058477/?i=15&from=glyphosate%20cancer https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/27058477/?i=15&from=gl...

alevskaya 10y ago
That's a terrible paper. This is a small epidemiological study where they're looking both at 1. exposure to sun and 2. occupational exposure to -any- herbicides/pesticides/fungacides/insecticides (not just glyphosate) and trying to pull out odds ratios of melanoma risk. Outdoor work definitely increases melanoma risk, but I wouldn't try to pull out much more than that from this paper!
- alphonsegaston 10y ago
  Thanks for clarifying!
  - snowpanda 10y ago
    He didn't really clarify anything though, just gave his opinion on evidence that he said didn't exist just a comment before. You could have given any of the other studies that warn against roundup and people will always find something wrong with the study. When people make up their minds about this stuff they stop looking at it objectively.

wslh 10y ago

I invite you to visit some places in Argentina and you will surely change your mind. You can find more information about this here http://www.i-sis.org.uk/argentinasRoundupHumanTragedy.php http://www.i-sis.org.uk/argentinasRoundupHumanTragedy.php

bobbington 10y ago

This statement sounds typical of a medical researcher - you are trained to think this way. However medicine has a long and horrible history of mocking as quacks those who have the truth, and are a step ahead of the powers that be. At one point doctors thought germ theory was idiocy and mocked those who insisted on cleanliness. Just because there is no evidence that "top researchers" accept today does not mean that it won't come out in the future. For something as toxic as this, I think we are best to assume dangerous until proven safe.