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Ah, the conservative ilk favors power structures that demean other humans. No surprise.

by gech 9y ago

Jabanga 9y ago
That shows no faith in me as a human being.
mason55 9y ago
Plenty on the left would agree that this should be legal. And I think most people would agree that it's an undesirable outcome. The argument is usually around what the solution is.
- jliptzin 9y ago
  From the right, it should be legal because we don't need laws restricting what two consenting adults are doing. From the left, it should be legal because this can be interpreted as a kind of sex work, and making it illegal only sends it underground and creates more dangerous situations for sex workers.
- lsiebert 9y ago
  Hmm... I think that the left is split on legalizing prostitution. But most sex positive liberals believe that prostitution and sex work should be legalized in ways that prevents coercion, and this seems to reinforce it. I mean, if you have a live in maid or nanny or cook, you may feed and house her, but you still have to pay her at least minimum wage, right? I think that's the difference between human slavery and a live in employee.
  - bostik 9y ago
    > Hmm... I think that the left is split on legalizing prostitution. I remember arguing the complexity back in junior high - and my opinions on the matter have changed and become even more nuanced since then. 1) I personally believe that sex work should be decriminalised, with the caveat that: 2) Sex work cannot become an expected option for a profession The reason for my second point is that there is a very short and very steep slippery slope from that to the stage where job centres will turn into de facto brothel funnels. One ugly aspect of being an unemployed job seeker is that turning down job offers, even those where you don't have the matching qualifications, risks cutting off job seeker's allowance. I do not want to live in a world where such qualifications can be callously reduced to "breathes, has useful orifice(s)".
dang 9y ago
Please don't use HN for ideological battle. If a comment is wrong, explain why thoughtfully; don't up the ante. We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14103023 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14103023 and marked it off-topic.

Ah, the conservative ilk favors power structures that demean other humans. No surprise.

by gech 9y ago

Ah, the conservative ilk favors power structures that demean other humans. No surprise.

Jabanga 9y ago

That shows no faith in me as a human being.

mason55 9y ago

Plenty on the left would agree that this should be legal. And I think most people would agree that it's an undesirable outcome. The argument is usually around what the solution is.

jliptzin 9y ago
From the right, it should be legal because we don't need laws restricting what two consenting adults are doing. From the left, it should be legal because this can be interpreted as a kind of sex work, and making it illegal only sends it underground and creates more dangerous situations for sex workers.
lsiebert 9y ago
Hmm... I think that the left is split on legalizing prostitution. But most sex positive liberals believe that prostitution and sex work should be legalized in ways that prevents coercion, and this seems to reinforce it. I mean, if you have a live in maid or nanny or cook, you may feed and house her, but you still have to pay her at least minimum wage, right? I think that's the difference between human slavery and a live in employee.
- bostik 9y ago
  > Hmm... I think that the left is split on legalizing prostitution. I remember arguing the complexity back in junior high - and my opinions on the matter have changed and become even more nuanced since then. 1) I personally believe that sex work should be decriminalised, with the caveat that: 2) Sex work cannot become an expected option for a profession The reason for my second point is that there is a very short and very steep slippery slope from that to the stage where job centres will turn into de facto brothel funnels. One ugly aspect of being an unemployed job seeker is that turning down job offers, even those where you don't have the matching qualifications, risks cutting off job seeker's allowance. I do not want to live in a world where such qualifications can be callously reduced to "breathes, has useful orifice(s)".

dang 9y ago

Please don't use HN for ideological battle. If a comment is wrong, explain why thoughtfully; don't up the ante. We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14103023 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14103023 and marked it off-topic.