I joined the workforce at the same time that people were realizing that certs were a joke. That both hurt and helped me, as people hired me based on talent, and

I joined the workforce at the same time that people were realizing that certs were a joke. That both hurt and helped me, as people hired me based on talent, and not a piece of paper. But I wasn't in management, and I've since learned how very little technical skill you actually need to be an effective manager, and now I realize that certs are a great way for a manager to understand a complete baseline of the concepts needed for a particular field. A manager does not need to be a hacker, but they need to understand a baseline of security concepts. That's what certs are really useful for.