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> He was asked to leave the Drupal community by its community leader against the recommendations of its Code of Conduct board, to a large amount of backlash by

> He was asked to leave the Drupal community by its community leader against the recommendations of its Code of Conduct board, to a large amount of backlash by pretty much everybody, including many of those evil social justice warriors. Umm, no. The "Code of Conduct board" said he didn't violate the Code of Conduct, but they escalated the issue to Dries because _something_ came up that they felt needed his intervention. We don't know exactly what _something_ is. Larry has decided to spin the narrative that it has to do with his Gorean belief and that this is "kink shaming", comparing himself to persecuted gay people. The counter-narrative has been "we're not going to say for confidentiality and liability reasons, but it has nothing to do with anything Larry wrote about."

vertex-four 10y ago
They decided, rather explicitly, that there was no code of conduct violation. I don't know what else to say. Also: your quotations around kink shaming imply that you don't believe this is a real thing. The fact that I have multiple friends who've lost their jobs because someone sent their bosses a set of pictures taken off of Fetlife suggests otherwise.
- thehardsphere 10y ago
  "No Code of Conduct violation" doesn't mean "nothing wrong happened." It could just as easily mean that the Code of Conduct is inadequate. Also, I do believe kink shaming is a real thing. I don’t believe that Larry Garfield was kink shamed. I think Larry is making this about kink to distract from whatever it is really about. I also know some feminists who find the idea of a white heterosexual male being capable of being kink shamed is definitionally impossible and thus something to find offensive, especially given the enormous privilege Larry Garfield has enjoyed up until now as one of the leading members of the Drupal community. Whether that is true or not is something I don’t actually know enough about to comment on, but it's enough to make me cautious about labelling what happened here as kink shaming.
  - vertex-four 10y ago
    > I also know some feminists who find the idea of a white heterosexual male being capable of being kink shamed is definitionally impossible and thus something to find offensive Ehh, there's a lot who find kink shaming to be something fundamentally different from oppression of LGBTQIA+ people and racial minorities, but many fewer who'll state categorically that it doesn't exist or doesn't cause harm to individuals.
    - Kalium 10y ago
      You're absolutely right! You'll definitely find few who categorically state that kink shaming doesn't exist or doesn't cause harm to individuals. At the same time, it's possible you'll find some who may struggle with the idea of a cis-het white male being kink shamed as something to that should be a source of active and ongoing concern.

vertex-four 10y ago

They decided, rather explicitly, that there was no code of conduct violation. I don't know what else to say. Also: your quotations around kink shaming imply that you don't believe this is a real thing. The fact that I have multiple friends who've lost their jobs because someone sent their bosses a set of pictures taken off of Fetlife suggests otherwise.

thehardsphere 10y ago
"No Code of Conduct violation" doesn't mean "nothing wrong happened." It could just as easily mean that the Code of Conduct is inadequate. Also, I do believe kink shaming is a real thing. I don’t believe that Larry Garfield was kink shamed. I think Larry is making this about kink to distract from whatever it is really about. I also know some feminists who find the idea of a white heterosexual male being capable of being kink shamed is definitionally impossible and thus something to find offensive, especially given the enormous privilege Larry Garfield has enjoyed up until now as one of the leading members of the Drupal community. Whether that is true or not is something I don’t actually know enough about to comment on, but it's enough to make me cautious about labelling what happened here as kink shaming.
- vertex-four 10y ago
  > I also know some feminists who find the idea of a white heterosexual male being capable of being kink shamed is definitionally impossible and thus something to find offensive Ehh, there's a lot who find kink shaming to be something fundamentally different from oppression of LGBTQIA+ people and racial minorities, but many fewer who'll state categorically that it doesn't exist or doesn't cause harm to individuals.
  - Kalium 10y ago
    You're absolutely right! You'll definitely find few who categorically state that kink shaming doesn't exist or doesn't cause harm to individuals. At the same time, it's possible you'll find some who may struggle with the idea of a cis-het white male being kink shamed as something to that should be a source of active and ongoing concern.