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So then how do you deal with people with such beliefs in your society? Do you shun them, throw slurs at them? What happens when one moves in to be your next-doo

So then how do you deal with people with such beliefs in your society? Do you shun them, throw slurs at them? What happens when one moves in to be your next-door neighbor? Do you try moving to places without them? Intolerance of beliefs is incompatible with society, and society has shown no signs of changing. How would your solution address that? Indoctrination? Building an ideological "wall"? Killing those who do not meet your ideology, or wait and hope it 'dies out'? What happens when they elect someone with such beliefs to lead you?

oneeyedpigeon 10y ago
> So then how do you deal with people with such beliefs in your society Challenge those beliefs. I believe i shouldn't be forced to tolerate them, though.
therpe1 10y ago
> So then how do you deal with people with such beliefs in your society? Do you shun them, throw slurs at them? What happens when one moves in to be your next-door neighbor? Do you try moving to places without them? Pretty much all of the above. Americans get confused about the qualities of different "spaces." It's like the US is all one big "public space" except for private land where you can murder intruders with impunity. In reality, different spaces demand different politics. Public spaces are in fact very special -- by definition, everybody must be accepted as long as they're not breaking the law. Try to eject somebody from a public space for their beliefs and it's you, not them, who will end up in jail. See the Trump protestors. Open-source projects aren't like that. They're essentially private associations that, in reality, receive zero public support and they don't even pay most of their members. It's literally a collection of volunteers and amateurs. And here the members absolutely do possess the right to eject anybody for any reason. It's not "fair" but fairness is not a concept that applies to such spaces.
ekianjo 10y ago
> So then how do you deal with people with such beliefs in your society? Do you shun them, throw slurs at them? What happens when one moves in to be your next-door neighbor? Do you try moving to places without them? As long as they do not impede on my or anyone else Freedom's, it's fine for them to have their own beliefs about the world or whatever. Why should we ALL have the same beliefs anyway? > Intolerance of beliefs is incompatible with society, and society has shown no signs of changing. Sorry but society as a whole has NEVER collapsed no matter how many disharmonies there are or were amongst us - even civil wars do not bring down entire societies. There's a lot more harm to be done by putting limits on how people should think, and this kind of line of thought is actually what leads to conflict more often than not. > What happens when they elect someone with such beliefs to lead you? So what? Leaders who do not represent folks have been elected for centuries already, it's hardly something new. You know, live with it.

oneeyedpigeon 10y ago

> So then how do you deal with people with such beliefs in your society Challenge those beliefs. I believe i shouldn't be forced to tolerate them, though.

therpe1 10y ago

> So then how do you deal with people with such beliefs in your society? Do you shun them, throw slurs at them? What happens when one moves in to be your next-door neighbor? Do you try moving to places without them? Pretty much all of the above. Americans get confused about the qualities of different "spaces." It's like the US is all one big "public space" except for private land where you can murder intruders with impunity. In reality, different spaces demand different politics. Public spaces are in fact very special -- by definition, everybody must be accepted as long as they're not breaking the law. Try to eject somebody from a public space for their beliefs and it's you, not them, who will end up in jail. See the Trump protestors. Open-source projects aren't like that. They're essentially private associations that, in reality, receive zero public support and they don't even pay most of their members. It's literally a collection of volunteers and amateurs. And here the members absolutely do possess the right to eject anybody for any reason. It's not "fair" but fairness is not a concept that applies to such spaces.

ekianjo 10y ago

> So then how do you deal with people with such beliefs in your society? Do you shun them, throw slurs at them? What happens when one moves in to be your next-door neighbor? Do you try moving to places without them? As long as they do not impede on my or anyone else Freedom's, it's fine for them to have their own beliefs about the world or whatever. Why should we ALL have the same beliefs anyway? > Intolerance of beliefs is incompatible with society, and society has shown no signs of changing. Sorry but society as a whole has NEVER collapsed no matter how many disharmonies there are or were amongst us - even civil wars do not bring down entire societies. There's a lot more harm to be done by putting limits on how people should think, and this kind of line of thought is actually what leads to conflict more often than not. > What happens when they elect someone with such beliefs to lead you? So what? Leaders who do not represent folks have been elected for centuries already, it's hardly something new. You know, live with it.