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kde is really very good, maybe because i am used to it, i dont see what it is missing, but i think even if it is missing something, it is probably minor as Lin

by systems 10y ago

kde is really very good, maybe because i am used to it, i dont see what it is missing, but i think even if it is missing something, it is probably minor as Linus Torvalds said in a video on youtube, what linux on the desktop need is to come preinstalled by the major pc vendor ... ubuntu need more deals with big vendors that is all

terrestrial 10y ago
KDE and Gnome are both really good nowadays, but Ubuntu is a buggy piece of shit. I've helped friends install it a couple of times recent years, and seen various desktop program crashes every time. It wasn't like this back in the Gnome2 days. What we really need is Red Hat to start selling Fedora computers. And KDE Neon to ship laptops based on Debian stable. And obviously at least one big retailer to have them in a physical store, so we tell our friends where to go.
- rantanplan 10y ago
  A Fedora "leap" release, same as with OpenSUSE Leap, with a 3 year support cycle would be the ultimate system for me. I've been using Fedora for the last 7-8 years, but I have to upgrade every 13-14 months or so. And CentOS is not suited for a modern development/workstation environment.
  - kirushik 10y ago
    Why not OpenSUSE Leap then?
    - rantanplan 10y ago
      As an experiment I have OpenSUSE leap on my workstation(while Fedora on my laptop). I can't say bad things about it, except that it's quite often that you can't find packages for various applications. A random example would be spotify, that was one of my last adventures to make it work(I got tired and gave up after a while). And Fedora/RH has a lot more momentum in general and you can be certain that it will be around for as long as Linux is a thing I guess :) Suse has gone through various struggles and it doesn't inspire much confidence to me anymore.
  - lima 10y ago
    I like it. Fedora upgrades are mostly painless and 3 year support cycles means more outdated software.
    - rantanplan 10y ago
      Yes I like it too, but think farther ahead. Why is Ubuntu the defacto supported Linux distro? Why is,quite often, steam so difficult to install, while it's a breeze to install on Ubuntu? You can't expect people to consider you as a legitimate target if you're constantly moving :(
- lima 10y ago
  Same on servers. So many bugs - very small bugs mostly, but at once it gets annoying.

by systems 10y ago

terrestrial 10y ago

KDE and Gnome are both really good nowadays, but Ubuntu is a buggy piece of shit. I've helped friends install it a couple of times recent years, and seen various desktop program crashes every time. It wasn't like this back in the Gnome2 days. What we really need is Red Hat to start selling Fedora computers. And KDE Neon to ship laptops based on Debian stable. And obviously at least one big retailer to have them in a physical store, so we tell our friends where to go.

rantanplan 10y ago
A Fedora "leap" release, same as with OpenSUSE Leap, with a 3 year support cycle would be the ultimate system for me. I've been using Fedora for the last 7-8 years, but I have to upgrade every 13-14 months or so. And CentOS is not suited for a modern development/workstation environment.
- kirushik 10y ago
  Why not OpenSUSE Leap then?
  - rantanplan 10y ago
    As an experiment I have OpenSUSE leap on my workstation(while Fedora on my laptop). I can't say bad things about it, except that it's quite often that you can't find packages for various applications. A random example would be spotify, that was one of my last adventures to make it work(I got tired and gave up after a while). And Fedora/RH has a lot more momentum in general and you can be certain that it will be around for as long as Linux is a thing I guess :) Suse has gone through various struggles and it doesn't inspire much confidence to me anymore.
- lima 10y ago
  I like it. Fedora upgrades are mostly painless and 3 year support cycles means more outdated software.
  - rantanplan 10y ago
    Yes I like it too, but think farther ahead. Why is Ubuntu the defacto supported Linux distro? Why is,quite often, steam so difficult to install, while it's a breeze to install on Ubuntu? You can't expect people to consider you as a legitimate target if you're constantly moving :(
lima 10y ago
Same on servers. So many bugs - very small bugs mostly, but at once it gets annoying.