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If Sublime only had definite release! It's wonderful GUI editor! I stopped using it years ago when I switched to Vim and Emacs, but if it gets released I will b

If Sublime only had definite release! It's wonderful GUI editor! I stopped using it years ago when I switched to Vim and Emacs, but if it gets released I will buy it for sure, at least to have it on my work machine. I like editing text in it, everything is so smooth and well looking, and it doesn't feel bloated. And I just hate all those Electron based editors, no matter how much incrementally they get better from month to month, they never even came close to Sublime's swiftness and polish. I tried VSCode last month, for few hours and uninstalled. And people are often relaying on metrics and public opinion of usage of certain tool. Look, on latest StackOverflow Dev Survey Notepad++ was way ahead of everyone, it tells you something.

captainmuon 9y ago
Release or not release is just a name. You shouldn't let that be a factor. In my experience it is absolutely stable and as bug free as software can be. However, I'm not sure how well maintained it is. I fear all the time that the author, jps, has quit, but then every few months he has a development sprint and releases a new version. I'd rather have it permanently called "beta" but a minor update every month, than one version declared finished, with rare or no updates afterwards.
- jrimbault 9y ago
  Didn't they hire wbond "recently" (like a year ago) ? wbond is the author of Package Control for ST and I think he lurks here sometime.
- Philipp__ 9y ago
  That's true. Sublime 3 never felt like "beta" software. But as somebody said below, I am afraid of people quitting and leaving it to die slowly (like TextMate died) and that's the reason why I was hesitate to buy it for so long. Nobody guarantees if the developers drop the ball for some hypothetic reason thing will go open source, even that is not guaranteeing anything (again TextMate's case).
  - intoverflow2 9y ago
    > like TextMate died Textmate is still in development and has a good few releases a year. Last commit was a month ago but I think Allan likes to work a few months then have a few off.
    - zero_ 9y ago
      It's still in my dock. It feels great on macOS and it is lightweight.
  - armandososa 9y ago
    If you like it, and you're afraid that it will be abandoned then don't hesitate to pay. I'm sure money is an incentive to keep working on it. I paid for S2 and S3 and I'm happy to have done so.
    - Philipp__ 9y ago
      You can see my response comment below. But what has been holding me the most are Vim and Emacs, since I've used them exclusively for last 4 years.
  - Beltiras 9y ago
    A week's worth of Starbucks. For software you have probably used a lot already.
    - Philipp__ 9y ago
      I am student, and not from rich enough country. We don't even have Starbucks. But I don't want it to be excuse. With this new update, Sublime feels fresh again, and I think it will be worth investing into.
- greenhatman 9y ago
  That's true. I've been using Sublime for years and I've never had a bug or a crash. It pretty much perfect. And it's blazing fast. I actually even use its fuzzy search to search my harddrive sometimes. Because I haven't found an easy app for Linux that works like Search Everything on Windows.
  - pier25 9y ago
    > I haven't found an easy app for Linux that works like Search Everything on Windows. https://github.com/albertlauncher/albert https://github.com/albertlauncher/albert
    - haddr 9y ago
      Wow this looks really cool! I didn't know it before... There is another one that i'm using: tracker, but it's less cool.
    - andrepd 9y ago
      That's not quite like Search Everything, which is just a tool for searching files by name. In that vein though, see also Synapse: https://launchpad.net/synapse-project https://launchpad.net/synapse-project
      - pier25 9y ago
        True, but searching by name it's one of the main features of Albert and it's certainly more convenient than using ST to search your computer.
        tedmiston 9y ago
        s/Albert/Alfred
      - greglindahl 9y ago
        Have you tried 'locate' ?
  - 9y ago
- doodpants 9y ago
  > Release or not release is just a name. You shouldn't let that be a factor. I disagree. The name is the developer's way of telling you whether the software should be considered ready for general use. As long as it's called "beta", I'm not going to second guess the developer's judgement; I'll wait until the release version of ST3 before upgrading from ST2.
- calferreira 9y ago
  Yup, remember Gmail ? It took years to go out of beta, didn't see anyone complain or worried.
SippinLean 9y ago
On the contrary, I still miss the speed of ST but the price-vs-feature ratio on VSC is too high for me to ignore anymore. No way the boss will shell out $70 per license if/when ST3 is ever released (now that half our team has dropped it anyway). Guess what you said about not relying on "public opinion" includes your own.
- Philipp__ 9y ago
  Well price-vs-feature ratio is debatable. The thing is that VSC has many IDE-like features, that I don't want in text editor. So everything comes down to a personal preference. And I don't know if somebody will finance piece of software for you, I mean they can, again depending on situation, but I don't turn off the possibility of me personally paying for piece of software that I like.
  - SippinLean 9y ago
    How so? VSC is approaching 1:1 feature parity with ST at a $70 price reduction. Some features you need extensions for in ST are included with VSC OOTB.
    - nojvek 9y ago
      I am a big vscode user, have a couple of contributions too. But because of perf, sublime feels light weight. Opening up minified and large packaged js files larger than 100 MB, sublime shines. I still have a licence and want to support the excellent work. There's a ton of features in VSC that were inspired from sublime. Minimap being one.
    - coldtea 9y ago
      >VSC is approaching 1:1 feature parity with ST at a $70 price reduction. Speed is a major feature. And battery/memory efficiency is too. And, on principle, I'd pay to NOT have to use an Electron app. That said, I've used VSCode from time to time.
    - Philipp__ 9y ago
      Well it depends what you define as editor features. Debugger isn't part of editor, at least for me, nor is git integration like VSC has. But speed of opening and editing big files, swiftness in searching and replacing even chars in source code and so satisfying scrolling and good minimap for code navigation are defining factors of text editor. I don't want Sublime to be IDE, I have programable environment called Emacs for that. Integrating everything into editor is cool, to the point where you ask yourself "why am I doing all this?" and erase everything and just start writing code, not code for the editor. Again, this is my _personal_ experience, so take everything with grain of salt. I know your case is different, but I think you can see the reasoning behind my words.
RazrFalcon 9y ago
Well, it still has some annoying issues: https://github.com/SublimeTextIssues/Core/issues/392 https://github.com/SublimeTextIssues/Core/issues/392 So I have to use Kate for non-Latin text. But it still miles better than VSCode/Atom.
- gaastonsr 9y ago
  Haha true, try to open the console with a non-US keyboard, good luck. I use a US keyboard now so I had forgotten :)
frik 9y ago
Notepad++ just works and is great. It's lean and has a common UI, has syntax highlighting and auto-complition. The Texteditor that comes with Gnome is similar. Same with Nano, it just works and has a good enough UI.
- sixothree 9y ago
  My biggest problem with Notepad is performance. It absolutely chokes on large files.
- jhasse 9y ago
  Gedit doesn't perform as good on large files as Sublime. And nano is missing syntax highlighting for a lot of languages out of the box.
icc97 9y ago
If you're using Vim / Emacs, people should consider giving an equal amount that you'd pay for a ST licence to Vim / Emacs instead. Even better, if you're a company then pay the equivalent of what Visual Studio costs.

captainmuon 9y ago

Release or not release is just a name. You shouldn't let that be a factor. In my experience it is absolutely stable and as bug free as software can be. However, I'm not sure how well maintained it is. I fear all the time that the author, jps, has quit, but then every few months he has a development sprint and releases a new version. I'd rather have it permanently called "beta" but a minor update every month, than one version declared finished, with rare or no updates afterwards.

jrimbault 9y ago
Didn't they hire wbond "recently" (like a year ago) ? wbond is the author of Package Control for ST and I think he lurks here sometime.
Philipp__ 9y ago
That's true. Sublime 3 never felt like "beta" software. But as somebody said below, I am afraid of people quitting and leaving it to die slowly (like TextMate died) and that's the reason why I was hesitate to buy it for so long. Nobody guarantees if the developers drop the ball for some hypothetic reason thing will go open source, even that is not guaranteeing anything (again TextMate's case).
- intoverflow2 9y ago
  > like TextMate died Textmate is still in development and has a good few releases a year. Last commit was a month ago but I think Allan likes to work a few months then have a few off.
  - zero_ 9y ago
    It's still in my dock. It feels great on macOS and it is lightweight.
- armandososa 9y ago
  If you like it, and you're afraid that it will be abandoned then don't hesitate to pay. I'm sure money is an incentive to keep working on it. I paid for S2 and S3 and I'm happy to have done so.
  - Philipp__ 9y ago
    You can see my response comment below. But what has been holding me the most are Vim and Emacs, since I've used them exclusively for last 4 years.
- Beltiras 9y ago
  A week's worth of Starbucks. For software you have probably used a lot already.
  - Philipp__ 9y ago
    I am student, and not from rich enough country. We don't even have Starbucks. But I don't want it to be excuse. With this new update, Sublime feels fresh again, and I think it will be worth investing into.
greenhatman 9y ago
That's true. I've been using Sublime for years and I've never had a bug or a crash. It pretty much perfect. And it's blazing fast. I actually even use its fuzzy search to search my harddrive sometimes. Because I haven't found an easy app for Linux that works like Search Everything on Windows.
- pier25 9y ago
  > I haven't found an easy app for Linux that works like Search Everything on Windows. https://github.com/albertlauncher/albert https://github.com/albertlauncher/albert
  - haddr 9y ago
    Wow this looks really cool! I didn't know it before... There is another one that i'm using: tracker, but it's less cool.
  - andrepd 9y ago
    That's not quite like Search Everything, which is just a tool for searching files by name. In that vein though, see also Synapse: https://launchpad.net/synapse-project https://launchpad.net/synapse-project
    - pier25 9y ago
      True, but searching by name it's one of the main features of Albert and it's certainly more convenient than using ST to search your computer.
      - tedmiston 9y ago
        s/Albert/Alfred
    - greglindahl 9y ago
      Have you tried 'locate' ?
- 9y ago
doodpants 9y ago
> Release or not release is just a name. You shouldn't let that be a factor. I disagree. The name is the developer's way of telling you whether the software should be considered ready for general use. As long as it's called "beta", I'm not going to second guess the developer's judgement; I'll wait until the release version of ST3 before upgrading from ST2.
calferreira 9y ago
Yup, remember Gmail ? It took years to go out of beta, didn't see anyone complain or worried.

SippinLean 9y ago

On the contrary, I still miss the speed of ST but the price-vs-feature ratio on VSC is too high for me to ignore anymore. No way the boss will shell out $70 per license if/when ST3 is ever released (now that half our team has dropped it anyway). Guess what you said about not relying on "public opinion" includes your own.

Philipp__ 9y ago
Well price-vs-feature ratio is debatable. The thing is that VSC has many IDE-like features, that I don't want in text editor. So everything comes down to a personal preference. And I don't know if somebody will finance piece of software for you, I mean they can, again depending on situation, but I don't turn off the possibility of me personally paying for piece of software that I like.
- SippinLean 9y ago
  How so? VSC is approaching 1:1 feature parity with ST at a $70 price reduction. Some features you need extensions for in ST are included with VSC OOTB.
  - nojvek 9y ago
    I am a big vscode user, have a couple of contributions too. But because of perf, sublime feels light weight. Opening up minified and large packaged js files larger than 100 MB, sublime shines. I still have a licence and want to support the excellent work. There's a ton of features in VSC that were inspired from sublime. Minimap being one.
  - coldtea 9y ago
    >VSC is approaching 1:1 feature parity with ST at a $70 price reduction. Speed is a major feature. And battery/memory efficiency is too. And, on principle, I'd pay to NOT have to use an Electron app. That said, I've used VSCode from time to time.
  - Philipp__ 9y ago
    Well it depends what you define as editor features. Debugger isn't part of editor, at least for me, nor is git integration like VSC has. But speed of opening and editing big files, swiftness in searching and replacing even chars in source code and so satisfying scrolling and good minimap for code navigation are defining factors of text editor. I don't want Sublime to be IDE, I have programable environment called Emacs for that. Integrating everything into editor is cool, to the point where you ask yourself "why am I doing all this?" and erase everything and just start writing code, not code for the editor. Again, this is my _personal_ experience, so take everything with grain of salt. I know your case is different, but I think you can see the reasoning behind my words.

RazrFalcon 9y ago

Well, it still has some annoying issues: https://github.com/SublimeTextIssues/Core/issues/392 https://github.com/SublimeTextIssues/Core/issues/392 So I have to use Kate for non-Latin text. But it still miles better than VSCode/Atom.

gaastonsr 9y ago
Haha true, try to open the console with a non-US keyboard, good luck. I use a US keyboard now so I had forgotten :)

frik 9y ago

Notepad++ just works and is great. It's lean and has a common UI, has syntax highlighting and auto-complition. The Texteditor that comes with Gnome is similar. Same with Nano, it just works and has a good enough UI.

sixothree 9y ago
My biggest problem with Notepad is performance. It absolutely chokes on large files.
jhasse 9y ago
Gedit doesn't perform as good on large files as Sublime. And nano is missing syntax highlighting for a lot of languages out of the box.

icc97 9y ago

If you're using Vim / Emacs, people should consider giving an equal amount that you'd pay for a ST licence to Vim / Emacs instead. Even better, if you're a company then pay the equivalent of what Visual Studio costs.